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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday May 07 2019, @11:02AM   Printer-friendly
from the full-of-electric-eels dept.

Amsterdam's head of transport has announced plans to ban petrol and diesel cars in the city by 2030.

The clean air action plan aims to make the Dutch capital a "world leader in emission-free transport".

Transport chief Sharon Dijksma said residents "live a year less on average due to dirty air" and that the plan should "prolong the health of the average Amsterdammer by three months."

But the plan has already incited strong reactions in the Netherlands with one motoring organisation branding it "bizarre" and wondering how normal people would afford electric cars.

The plan, which would be applied 20 years before the Paris Agreement aims to slash greenhouse gas emissions, would require up to 23,000 electric charging points by 2025. The city currently has 3,000.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by VLM on Tuesday May 07 2019, @11:15AM (13 children)

    by VLM (445) on Tuesday May 07 2019, @11:15AM (#840089)

    Google claims Amsterdam is 17% Muslim, so the real percentage is probably about 36%.

    That has some implications in that the "legacy civilization" of Europe seems hell bent on various social status signalling stuff like banning cars, but they're going away, and the replacement culture of Europe, that being Islam, does not get all excited about banning cars or whatever. I can't think of an Islamic city thats into anti-car social status signalling.

    By 2030, white child-free leftist urban globalist hipsters are going to be a minority in Amsterdam, if not Europe in general, and I don't think the sharia caliphate or whatever it'll be called will implement, enforce, or care about banning cars.

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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @11:27AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @11:27AM (#840095)

    Christians, eg 'The West' used to be just as nutty with their religion.

    I know quite a few people of Arabic descent, whos ancestors were Muslim, and realistically? They aren't, any more than I'm Christian.

    The real problem, as I see it, are fascist 'religious states'. As long as a religious states can control many things about what people learn, see, hear, and talk about -- the status quo will continue.

    But that doesn't mean that 3rd generation immigrants will maintain historical ties.

    But who knows really. 12 years is a long time, and a short time.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 08 2019, @01:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 08 2019, @01:37AM (#840567)

      > The real problem, as I see it, are fascist 'religious states'. As long as a religious states can control many things about what people learn, see, hear, and talk about -- the status quo will continue.

      The USA has many clusters of 2nd or 3rd generation madrassas [privateschoolreview.com]. Those who have passed through them only get minimal exposure to Western thought, ideas, or values, and not even reading or writing. The good news is that leaves them withoutt the skill to become serious terrorists. That is for the [nytimes.com]wealthy [internationalstudent.com], educated moslems. Other countries have it even worse. Pakistan [pbs.org] is one and a preview of Texas, Minnesota, and Michigan in another generation or two.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by sshelton76 on Tuesday May 07 2019, @11:28AM (9 children)

    by sshelton76 (7978) on Tuesday May 07 2019, @11:28AM (#840096)

    I think the guy who keeps posting the Jewish conspiracy stuff would disagree with you. After all it's the Jews who have a master plan, sealed in blood by way of birthright and they are all hell bent on taking over the world dontcha know.
    Here's hoping he shows up to help you get your facts straight.

    Meantime, the Irish culture here in the USA ended up being barely a blip on the radar despite very similar claims years ago. And since the Irish we have weathered crush after crush of huddled masses. As it turns out, kids don't really give a crap about their parent's imaginary sky fairies and generally want to not be poked fun at. So they integrate, assimilate and conform and the melting pot continues.

    Can't really speak for Amsterdam, but 200+ years of an immigration policy that amounted to, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" has turned the USA into a powerhouse of innovation. A powerhouse that only started to ebb once we developed a sudden case of xenophobia.

    Immigrants are what made this country great. If you really want to make it great again, then open the immigration policies back up.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @11:47AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @11:47AM (#840101)

      I think the guy who keeps posting the Jewish conspiracy stuff would disagree with you.

      It's probably the same guy.

      • (Score: 2) by sshelton76 on Tuesday May 07 2019, @12:20PM (1 child)

        by sshelton76 (7978) on Tuesday May 07 2019, @12:20PM (#840110)

        Precisely why there would be disagreement don't you think?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @01:18PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @01:18PM (#840125)

          Precisely why there would be disagreement don't you think?

          It depends on the motive. You are assuming people's motives are not simply to stir up shit. There are a significant amount of agitators in this world that love nothing better than see the world burn just so they can enjoy the show... at least until their ass is on fire.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @12:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @12:26PM (#840113)

      >> kids don't really give a crap about their parent's imaginary sky fairies and generally want to not be poked fun at

      Except the SJWs don't allow you to poke fun at them anymore ("Islamophobia") so they aren't getting the necessary social cues to give up goat-fuckery and the like.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @02:15PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @02:15PM (#840158)

      USA, Irish, conspiracy, Jews, ... you forgot to mention Kennedys's murders. Are you blind to contexts or what?

      • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday May 07 2019, @04:52PM (3 children)

        by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday May 07 2019, @04:52PM (#840266)

        The illuminati's mind control machine entered into a resonance with the Freemason's attack on our precious bodily fluids, causing him to skip a beat, or more precisely to jump over it like a lizardperson.

        • (Score: 2) by sshelton76 on Tuesday May 07 2019, @06:47PM (2 children)

          by sshelton76 (7978) on Tuesday May 07 2019, @06:47PM (#840338)

          Actually I am a lizardperson. Our resident anti-semite anon-coward figured it out in a previous post and thus, I've learned to accept it at face value.
          Feels good to be so l33t, lemme tell ya. I may have a mind control ray laying about somewhere, it will cause you to fluoridate your water and then you and your children can become lizard people too.

          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @09:04PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @09:04PM (#840424)

            "anti-semite"

            Your comedy fails to entertain anyone, khazar jewish rat!

            .
            .

            Khazar jews are not semites. When you send a khazar jew to a concentration camp and make him do actual work, you are not being anti-semite. Khazar jews are not semites.

            Khazar jews came from khazaria, a place in present-day Georgia. They converted to judaism (or told others they had, but judaism is a race not a religion and one cannot change race) after they were threatened with death if they continued on with their vile methods.

            For starters, it is documented in "The Eternal Jew" (Der Ewige Jude) documentary.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 08 2019, @08:13AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 08 2019, @08:13AM (#840682)

              So what you are sayin is there is no true Scotsman eh?
              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman [wikipedia.org]

              Jew is a race not a religion, and it is ok to send them to concentration camps so you can gas them, really you just said that to me?

              You literally just tried to justify murdering people wholesale based on their genome. In fact you encouraged it.

              Tell me more about gassing them. What was it like?

              You act like a classic agitprop. You talk like you swallowed the SVR playbook, hook, line and sinker. This is why I called you a traitor earlier. Except after going over your posts I realized you are a complete amateur at it. SVR wouldnt be dumb enough to hire you and soylent isnt influential enough to make it worth their while to target.

              Point of fact you are a run of the mill anti-semite who happened to encounter some old Russian and German propaganda while browsing stormfront and being unable to think for yourself, you swallowed it because it aligned with your biases, just fess up and own it.

              Perhaps the most interesting thing about your posts is that a person does not rise to your level of dysfunctional obsession without being in love with the subject matter.

              You intend to shock and be offensive but have you put any thought into what it says about you that it is men you are talking to and men you are talking about when you are getting your jollies off?

  • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday May 07 2019, @10:20PM

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday May 07 2019, @10:20PM (#840476)

    By 2030, white child-free leftist urban globalist hipsters...

    How the hell would you know? It's not like you've ever been there, or anywhere outside your provincial little mid-west American bubble.