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posted by janrinok on Tuesday May 07 2019, @03:29PM   Printer-friendly
from the telling-the-truth dept.

Chronic fatigue syndrome affects some, is ignored in those who have anything-at-all wrong, might be accepted with a shrug and a pat on the back for the otherwise healthy, and is otherwise unknown. Until now, no one has had anything to go on — but now, there's a way to show that seemingly healthy people are, in fact, affected by something. Well, it's a start.

Using a test to judge the stress of the immune system, researchers at Stanford have now identified those symptomatically diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome as having a condition that is not identified in a control group. While this is very little to go on, it is more than nothing to go on, and so could start a search for a treatment for an otherwise clueless grab at nothing. The simple fact that there is now a distinction is itself news, but also that the research uses a lab-on-a-chip to assess change in current of a sample of immune cells, giving them an indicator of the health (or stress) of the sample is an example of a technology that hasn't been considered until the last few years — and a hint at advances offered by even simple, routine advances of technology.

As a shameless plug, I consulted a trusted holistic health friend (note: whole-health/holistic, not homeopathic/pretend) about CFS, and she mentioned that she feels it's a general toxicity problem. The immune system does play a role in clearing various toxins from the body, so perhaps another clue for researchers to pursue. (Tip: up until 1990, lead-based solder was used in household plumbing. How much that matters, perhaps not a whole lot.)


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @05:51PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @05:51PM (#840299)

    Fun "toxin" fact: LSD flashbacks can happen when fatty tissues are mobilized because LSD molecules "hide" in fat, sometimes for decades. Go on a diet, take a trip from back in time.

    No, this has never happened.

      People may have intense emotional experiences and then have a flashback for that reason, but it is not re-release of LSD from a tissue reservoir years (or even days) later. I'd love to know what incompetent and/or malicious government employee came up with that one.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by ikanreed on Tuesday May 07 2019, @06:26PM (2 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 07 2019, @06:26PM (#840326) Journal

    I do appreciate the bare assertion of their claim against the bare assertion of your rejection of their claim.

    Only somehow, in rejecting their extraordinary claim you managed to make your rejection more extraordinary "no this has never happened". Clinicians have documented enough claims of it happening [popsci.com] that "it has never happened" is a spurious assertion. That the events that have been recorded are unrelated to prior drug use, or unrelated to the fat solubility of lysergic acids, those are arguments you could make, and there's no compelling evidence you're wrong.

    But "This has never happened" is grossly inaccurate.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @06:43PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @06:43PM (#840334)

      I didn't say flashbacks are a myth. I said lsd is not stored in some tissue reservoir and then released years later to cause a flashback. This has never happened.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 08 2019, @12:36AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 08 2019, @12:36AM (#840539)

      Lsd is not a stable molecule it does not stays intact that long : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide#Reactivity_and_degradation [wikipedia.org]
      Also it is water-soluble so it will not accumulate in fat