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posted by martyb on Thursday May 09 2019, @10:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the however-the-chips-may-fall dept.

CNet:

The new models incorporate second-generation Ryzen Pro processors -- up to the Ryzen 7 Pro 3700U -- which incorporate the company's AMD graphics.

Though they use the same chassis and screens as their Intel counterparts, the Ryzen Pro U chipset doesn't yet support Thunderbolt 3 or alt-mode on USB-C, so the AMD models are bolstered with a more modern version of HDMI for monitor connections -- 2.0 vs. 1.4 -- two USB-A and a single USB-C, in contrast to the single USB-A and a second Thunderbolt-supporting USB-C connection on the Intel models.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Thursday May 09 2019, @08:44PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday May 09 2019, @08:44PM (#841534) Journal

    AMD has fallen behind Intel on the mobile front and it's their fault, not vendors.

    AMD does the server and desktop chips first, then releases the mobile version 6-12 months later. That's why we're talking about "12nm" second-generation Ryzen Pro Mobile when they are going to release "7nm" desktop CPUs in a couple of months. Intel has focused on releasing mobile CPUs before desktop CPUs.

    Intel has 6-core and 8-core mobile chips, AMD has 4-core. Intel has 10-core planned (allegedly - leak/rumor), and we're not sure about AMD yet.

    AMD has no great options for under 15 Watts TDP. They recently announced a 6-Watt "28nm" Excavator chip for Chromebooks and other fanless devices, when they are selling "12nm" and soon "7nm" Zen CPUs. The problem may be a fundamental power consumption floor issue with Zen/Ryzen.

    Intel has steadily improved its graphics and even produced chips that combined their own CPU with "integrated discrete" AMD graphics. They will probably ditch that in favor of what looks to be massively improved Xe-branded integrated graphics (aka Gen12?) in 2020-2021. If AMD is complacent, Intel can and will overtake them in integrated graphics.

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