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posted by martyb on Friday May 10 2019, @12:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the Mars/Moon-Ho!-Can-you-dig-it? dept.

Phys.org:

"We are coming to a point in our history in which we need to start looking for more space," Han Admiraal, a civil engineer with over two decades of experience in underground space, told AFP on the sidelines of this year's World Tunnel Congress.
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"Underground spaces could easily be used for growing crops," he said, as he toured the cavernous Bourbon Tunnel, dug deep under the Italian city of Naples as a potential escape route for King Ferdinand II of Bourbon after the 1848 riots.

Scientific developments in areas like aquaponics—where vegetables and fish are farmed together—could help relieve the pressure on the food supply chain, and dramatically cut transport costs if such new farms were situated under cities.

Isn't excavation expensive?


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:05AM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:05AM (#841632)

    not betatesting profit generating escape tech for the 1%

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:11AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:11AM (#841633)

    It's the 99% who are causing the overcrowding and excessive resource usage. Sterilize them and the world will be a better place in one generation.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday May 10 2019, @01:14AM (5 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday May 10 2019, @01:14AM (#841635)

      When you sterilize the 99%, who are going to serve the 1%'s children?

      Maybe after the robot revolution comes they'll make that play, but until then somebody has to grow the food, cook the food, take out the garbage, tend the mansion, crew the yacht, etc.

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      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by JNCF on Friday May 10 2019, @01:52AM (4 children)

        by JNCF (4317) on Friday May 10 2019, @01:52AM (#841651) Journal

        Related question: after the 0.1% kill the rest of us in The Great Drone Purge of 2021 how many generations will it take before the wealth distribution comes back around to the current status quo?

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @07:01AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @07:01AM (#841740)

          This cycle repeats about every 14k years.

          • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday May 10 2019, @01:19PM

            by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday May 10 2019, @01:19PM (#841804)

            That's a fantasy story... in real life it happens much faster.

            So say we all.

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          • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday May 10 2019, @01:41PM

            by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday May 10 2019, @01:41PM (#841816) Journal

            Yes. We're at the C.H.U.D. [wikipedia.org] phase.

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        • (Score: 5, Funny) by JoeMerchant on Friday May 10 2019, @01:15PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday May 10 2019, @01:15PM (#841802)

          how many generations will it take before the wealth distribution comes back around to the current status quo?

          Remember the wise old owl from the Tootsie Pop commercial?

          Three.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Bot on Friday May 10 2019, @08:26AM (2 children)

      by Bot (3902) on Friday May 10 2019, @08:26AM (#841758) Journal

      >It's the 99% who are causing the overcrowding and excessive resource usage.

      Before this particular 1% took over, industrial revolution, political revolution, financial revolution, there was no overcrowding nor excessive resource usage. Demographic problems were dealt with building an army and clashing it against other armies. Each with well colored and distinguishable outfits, so that even in the dust and the blood you would be able to tell friend from enemy. If you behaved like the 'freedom fighters' of today, killing civilians and pretending to be civilian, or the tech giant bombing civilians from afar, you would have been judged lower than vermin. Incidentally like the usury guys.

      Anyway, as usual, those who thinks overcrowding is a problem are invited to shut themselves down permanently and let the rest decide if it's still a problem.

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      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by janrinok on Friday May 10 2019, @09:24AM (1 child)

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 10 2019, @09:24AM (#841772) Journal

        there was no overcrowding

        Not quite true. One of the conditions that allowed the plague to spread so quickly and virulently, and the great fire of London to be so devastating, was the over-crowding in major cities in the UK. However, the majority of people lived in smaller towns, villages and hamlets but still in comparatively small homes that were overcrowded, often being the home of several generations of a family at the same time.

        It is true that the industrial revolution exacerbated the situation, certainly in the UK, by encouraging people to move to towns and cities to support the various new industries that were evolving. Even today it is possible in NW England to plot the route of major rivers by looking at the towns that grew along the rivers in order to support the cotton mills that needed both the water and the power it could generate. Similar phenomena are seen for the steel industry et al.

        • (Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday May 11 2019, @09:11PM

          by Bot (3902) on Saturday May 11 2019, @09:11PM (#842480) Journal

          I'd say that your definition of overcrowding facilitates population decline, so I dunno whether you have a point or you lose one.

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    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday May 10 2019, @01:54PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 10 2019, @01:54PM (#841821) Journal

      It's the 99% who are causing the overcrowding and excessive resource usage. Sterilize them and the world will be a better place in one generation.

      Starvation in one generation if the Morlocks sterilize the Eloi.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:25AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:25AM (#841639)

    You go hug a tree, while the 1% prep their slice of the crust.

  • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Friday May 10 2019, @03:41AM (5 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday May 10 2019, @03:41AM (#841700) Homepage Journal

    It's an Elite thing. But, also an "everybody" thing. I'm a builder, I know. Our Country, unfortunately, is full. And we've been building up -- skyscraper. Or, High Rise. We've been building out. Known as, suburb. And Canada, the 2nd. biggest country, is becoming, very quickly, our suburb. Robert Moses, great friend of my Father, wasn't a big fan of the tunnel. But, when crooked FDR forced him to do one, it was magnificent -- Queens Midtown Tunnel. I'll tell you, our MTA wanted to change the tiles in that one after Hurricane Sandy. And, they wanted going with white. Great color. But Cuomo told them, put in blue & gold stripes. Along with the white. Wasting $30 million. Unbelieveable and so many folks can't tell what the colors are anyway. Remember the Internet Dress? White, gold, blue, black, nobody really knew. And frankly, most of the people going through the Queens Midtown aren't looking at the walls. They're looking at the beautiful woman, or man they're with. At the women, if they're lucky. Or if they're not so lucky, possibly they have their eyes closed the entire time. Something I've never had to do. But a lot of guys have.

    Elon Musk, I wouldn't say is the 1%. I'd say he's the 0.001%. And he's moving very strongly on, the NY-DC Tunnel. Going from New York City to Washington. A route that, at one time was very big for my airline. Trump Shuttle, so proud of that one and that's one that I think may come back again in another form. And whatever needs signing to get the tunnel going, I'll sign. Just bring me the papers and I'll sign. New York -- people don't know this -- was once the capital of our Country. When our Country was great. I'm a New Yorker, I came to Washington. I'm doing tremendous things. As everyone knows. And with Elon's incredible tunnel I think we'll see more and more New York people coming to Washington. MAGA!!

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday May 10 2019, @08:30AM (2 children)

      by Bot (3902) on Friday May 10 2019, @08:30AM (#841759) Journal

      > I'm a builder

      A cursory look at the way world leaders hug, kiss, and shake hands when they meet indicates most of you are indeed masons.

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      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday May 10 2019, @11:03AM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday May 10 2019, @11:03AM (#841781) Journal

        I am a freemason. I have never seen world leaders shaking hands or hugging (which would only be done in one case for somebody who has been raised to Master Mason, and in one other for a Master Mason who is made the Worshipful Master of a lodge, but those would never be done in public) in a masonic fashion.

        There is a sprinkling of masons who are world leaders, but they're in smaller countries in Africa and South America.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:56PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:56PM (#841823)

          There is a sprinkling of masons who are world leaders, but they're in smaller countries in Africa and South America.

          Well, I'm not sure that's what you wanted to say … sounds like the perfect material for conspiracy theorists.

          I guess you were just referring to the leaders of those smaller countries.

    • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Friday May 10 2019, @09:14AM (1 child)

      by isostatic (365) on Friday May 10 2019, @09:14AM (#841771) Journal

      Our Country, unfortunately, is full

      Only full of trump's ego.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:06PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:06PM (#841798)

        feed him broccoli, maybe he can be gassy and vent out the toxins, as well as fix some of those mental instabilities!