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Female IEEE members say they face significant discrimination in the workplace, including demeaning comments, inappropriate job-interview questions, and exclusion from networking events and important business meetings.
Those were among the most common negative experiences reported by more than 4,500 members—associate member grade and above—from around the world who answered a survey IEEE conducted in 2017. The results were released last year.
Almost half of those surveyed worked in academia, and about 30 percent were from private industry. The rest worked for governmental or nonprofit institutions, or were graduate students or self-employed. The majority of respondents (65 percent) lived outside the United States.
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(Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @12:59PM (52 children)
More articles like this, please!
Keep the outrage flowing, SN.
I just can't get this kind of news anywhere else!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @01:07PM (50 children)
Indeed! I need moar reminders of why I must never vote for the Democratic Party again!
lolololol
I see we're posting leftist drivel from Chavista incels like NPC-131072. Why can we not also have a few nice Aristarchus submissions while we're at it? I really think that only the combined power of NPC-131072 and Aristarchus can save Soylentnews from the alt-right incel plague!
(Score: 5, Informative) by janrinok on Friday May 10 2019, @01:55PM (49 children)
The IEEE [..the world's largest technical professional organization for the advancement of technology] is a respected organisation and it is they that sourced this research. It matters not who the submitter is, but the content of the submission. We have to confirm that the story comes from a reputable source, that it is accurately and fairly reported, and that it is factual and unbiased. It also has to be of interest to the majority of our community. This meets all the criteria.
We also report stories from aristarchus, and indeed from any of our community including ACs, when they meet the same criteria.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @02:21PM (12 children)
It's a crap article, it's mostly about feelings and the "sexual harassment" is a byproduct of women in most parts of the world being unwilling to date somebody that's their own level.
I don't see anything in the article that's specific to them other than whining about it. Female only clubs and organizations are a thing and women get a ton of extra help in their pursuit of a job that men don't get. Or at least did before the #metoo women fucked that up for them. Now, you'd have to be a great fool to mentor a woman that could come round and complain about it.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @02:54PM (8 children)
Found the incel. Women don't like you cause yer an asshole.
Lumping millions of people into narrow categories is stupidly wrong.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @03:00PM (3 children)
Or, maybe I've got a point, but you're too pussy whipped to admit it. Women engage in literally all the bad behavior that they accuse men of. The only difference is that women are apparently not capable of being adults even though we expect all men to be.
It's rather telling that you had to resort to name calling.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @05:13PM
No, the dude was right. You are an incel. A dickless n00b. And that girl at work still isn't interested in dating you. Deal with it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @08:03PM (1 child)
When someone is an asshole you stop talking to them even if they sit on your dick from time to time.
There isn't some niceness threshold that will make women sleep with you any more than you'd suck a dude's dick just for being a bro.
I don't know what it is that has got this raging nice-guy syndrome going in the us but it's way out of control.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @11:30PM
Lol you realize that your grammatical structure makes it sound like you got some dude bouncing off your dick right?
Being a charming asshole is very different from being a misogynistic asshole. Misogyny only gets a pass from people with massive insecurities or daddy complexes. Usually they find out the guy is a misogynistic asshole later and they drop him faster than an incel meeting a feminist!
Amusing how you call being a decent human being "raging nice-guy syndrome." That syndrome is actually what creates most incels, they try-hard to be "nice" but no male or female is attracted to someone obviously pretending.
It is possible to be a nice guy without being a push over. You don't have to swallow someone's bullshit to be nice. Maybe you should suck some more dicks, might give you a better perspective on life.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday May 10 2019, @05:37PM (3 children)
You're partly mistaken. Women like assholes. What almost all women hate, are whiny bitches, or incels. Assholes like me get picked up in bars by attractive women. Incels do not get picked up in bars. By anyone.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @08:24PM
Translation: Sometimes I have sex and I expect people on the internet to be impressed
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday May 11 2019, @01:17AM (1 child)
Huh, I'm going to have to ask you about your playbook. I'm an asshole (anti-Semitic) at bars and always get rejected, especially by large-nosed women. What is your secret?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 11 2019, @01:27AM
Well, I've never walked into a bar, and told everyone that the big-nosed woman at the table closest to the bar must be a Jewish whore. Not even when said big-nosed woman WAS a Jewish whore.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @03:03PM (2 children)
If it comes to complains, I have this feeling "grooming" was a more appropriate word for what you'd be actually intending to do.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @03:57PM (1 child)
Pretty much the point parent was making. Too easy for it to turn around and bite you
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 11 2019, @12:32PM
Stop fucking dog females and they won't turn around to bite you.
(Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Friday May 10 2019, @03:10PM (14 children)
Mate, your use of verb tense is weird, as the last time you did it is close to those ancient times aristarchus was sexually fertile.
So deep into antiquity, that stories on S/N from aristarchus are almost a myth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Friday May 10 2019, @05:10PM (9 children)
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/05/07/066211
https://soylentnews.org/breakingnews/article.pl?sid=19/04/21/1128222
https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=19/04/17/0824259
A good jibe, but not accurate :)
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday May 10 2019, @05:42PM (7 children)
JFYI - Aristarchus has had 13 stories posted so far this year. I know people think that we ignore every story that he submits but it is simply untrue. But he only complains about the ones we reject.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @05:56PM (6 children)
Yes, but the percentage of his submissions you accept is woefully low compared to other submitters. Clearly an anti-Hellenic bias.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday May 10 2019, @06:00PM (4 children)
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday May 10 2019, @06:41PM (3 children)
Weren't me, JR! Just average Soylentils expressing their views on the alt-right bias inherent in the SoylentNews.
But as for the numbers, 119 submissions since Feb. 10 of this year, acceptance rate 6%. =7.14?
Total submissions: 682. Accepted: 89. Ratio: #freearistarchus.
Aristarchus acceptance rate in 2016, 70%. Gee, what happened after 2016?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @07:12PM (1 child)
You threw away all pretense of being a troll?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @07:31PM
Pretence? I do not think your post means what you think it means. Are you saying ari was pretending to be a troll, but then stopped? Or that he was a troll and admitted it? So is ari a troll, or not? Or is this a "meta-troll" post, intended to confuse me? Hanlon! Calling Hanlon! Bring razor, please!
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday May 10 2019, @07:27PM
Perhaps you stopped saying anything new that would generate in interesting discussion?
Not quite sure why you chose those particular dates to for this year's submissions, I have counted them and you have had 13 posted this year i.e. since 1 Jan 2019.
(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Saturday May 11 2019, @04:48PM
You should start including ice-hockey rinks as a unit of measure in your subs. The editors deeply appreciate this.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 11 2019, @12:08AM
Heh, seems that aristrachus has been sexually fertile until quite recently!
Congrats, magister, there aren't many of us able to do it.
(was about to say: "not many of us are able to pull it", but then I remembered that pulling is not the hardest part, it's the pushing)
(large grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Friday May 10 2019, @05:41PM (3 children)
Mules are born sterile. They may have penises that drag on the ground, but they can't do much with them.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 10 2019, @06:53PM (1 child)
"Animal husbandry" does not mean what you think it means, Runaway. Maybe the mule just wasn't that into you.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 11 2019, @12:53AM
Oh, come on!!! Flamebait? This should have reached +5, Funny long ago!
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @11:41PM
You must be Catholic if you think a penis can only be used to procreate.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @04:31PM (9 children)
A friend of mine was at a bar. He noticed a woman, approached, and as his opening line said:
"Your father must be a baker!"
Before he could get the second part of his witty comment in, she slapped him and stormed off. Confused, he sat down at the bar, and nursed his drink (and pride).
After a while, he approached the woman again, apologised, and asked why she slapped him. Her response?
"I don't have a yeast infection!!"
Oh, my friend thought. "But, I was just going to say -- you have nice buns!"
Now, had my friend not approached the second time.. this would not have been cleared up, and we'd have yet another surveyable case of "Men being assholes in bars".
Which from my personal experience, certainly SOME of women reporting "Bad behaviour" by men -- is just them assuming the worst.
Anything, almost anything can be taken the wrong way... and women (rightly or wrongly) seem to have their "backs up" these days, and tend to assume ANYTHING is WRONG!
HE WRONGED ME!
And so forth.
So I really, really, really wish that there was some way to observe all of these incidents in an impartial way. Instead of either side just reporting on random surveys.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @05:19PM (4 children)
No, no, no. She had him pretty well sized up the first time. And your "friend" is an asshole. Next time, you should try a less deplorable pick up line. Just sayin'.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @06:36PM (3 children)
Ah, from an anonymous coward, comes the words of Casanova!
Of course, we all have the perfect line, the perfect thing to say to a prospective mate. And anyone that says something not quite right? Is an asshole, yes? Hmm?
Maybe, perhaps, you're the asshole?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @07:40PM (2 children)
No, not a Casanova. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
"Not quite right"?!? Seriously? This is was way beyond "not quite right". I'm not all that socially astute and yet even I can see that. (Believe me, I've made my own share of social gaffes.) My only surprise is that he was not immediately escorted out when he made his second attempt at delivering his "pickup line".
Well, asshole is in the eye of the beholder I suppose. For my part, I think your "friend" got off far too easy on this one. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be at all surprised if "he" hasn't learned a damn thing from this.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @08:23PM (1 child)
ROTFL! "Learned a thing"?
He had a nice night with that girl, and who, or why, would he ever be escorted out for such a thing?
I strongly suspect you live in a really, really strange place. Obviously, beyond it being troll land, it's a place where people are afraid of the opposite sex, and an amusing line is met with immense social stigma.
Troll away..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 11 2019, @12:46AM
Well, I think she made a mistake even giving him so much as the time of day but it is her choice. Assuming, of course, you are not just talking shit on the internet.
Possible, I suppose. Is the sky blue in your world?
No, not afraid. But then neither do I go out of my way looking for ways to antagonize others.
I don't even have to bother asking the women in my life what they think of that line; I am certain that "amusement" would not be one of their reactions to such a boorish, tacky pickup line. I suspect you are the one who needs to get out more.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Friday May 10 2019, @05:46PM (2 children)
You think that this sort of behaviour is acceptable? I find that a pretty insulting way to speak to someone that you do know.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @06:39PM (1 child)
Insulting?
Maybe bars, where you live, are places people go to sit alone, by themselves.
Here, bars are used for people to find people for *sex*, and perhaps more later...
Yet you find it insulting, that someone approaches another person in a placed designed for one-liners, picking up a sex partner, and says *anything* nice about any part of their body?
What's *wrong* with you?
I guess you have scripts prepared for people?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @07:48PM
I can't speak for janrinok but if that is the way people typically behave in bars then I think I would prefer to sit alone. Just sayin'.
You have a set of cheesy pickup one-liners and you are ragging on janrinok about having a prepared script?!? Now I have to ask: what's wrong with you?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 13 2019, @03:20PM
yeah, and the part that everyone will ignore in the above example is
a) that the women didn't like his opening line
b) she considered that enough justification to physically assault him
c) we all think this perfectly normal
now, take the same situation and reverse the sexes, now the cops are involved
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @05:47PM
uh-huh. yep.
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Friday May 10 2019, @09:56PM (9 children)
"Unbiased," that's rich. That one's very rich. Great fertilizer for a garden, or a farm. They ran a story, "Microsoft Threatens to Bring Edge Browser to Linux." Horribly biased headline -- "THREATENS." Made up by the guy that submitted the story. And the one in the original article is very neutral -- Microsoft Say Edge May Come. And after they ran it, you -- Janrinok -- edited that one. But, incredibly, didn't change the headline. The guy that submitted that one had written a dumb joke. And possibly, you couldn't tell it was a joke. Certainly you didn't like it. Because it was at the expense of some cyber you like. Known as Systemd. So you "edited" it out. But the very biased headline is there to this day. To this day. And I see on Soylent News so many Hit Pieces against Microsoft. They're rich, they're successful, they're very smart and they're American. So you love to hate them. And possibly it brings in more "clicks." But, it's very different from what you say you're doing. From the supposed Neutrality.
So many times when I did Subs -- rejected by you and it was supposedly because I put Exclamation Point in the headline. Leaving the rest of it just the same as it was in the news. On the News Site. Exclamation Point is my way of saying, this is an exciting story. But according to you wasn't neutral. Very easy, I think, to edit that one. Obviously I'm not an expert in the editing. But, I know the Editors can put whatever headline they want. And Exclamation Point, it's one little symbol. They have, I assume, Back Space. Or, you know, why not leave that one? You left, as I said "Threatens" when the Original said "Say."
And, 2 days ago. You -- Janrinok ran a story, "EU Investment in British Tech Sector Reaches Record High Despite Brexit." Which had folks asking, did Brexit happen? It hasn't happened but the headline sounds like, it happened. 3 people tweeting about the bad (wrong) headline and I was the 3rd. And you stepped in. You didn't "edit" the wrong headline. You chewed me out for tweeting about it. And called me dumb for thinking "Brexit" meant Brexit. When -- possibly -- you meant the Brexit "process." You called it a "process," it looks like total chaos to me. Very easy, I think, to tack on "Process" in the headline. But let's not do that, let's take a very unfair swipe at Donald J. Trump instead. For being American. For being very rich, very successful and by the way, very smart. And for saying it was a terrible headline. It's known as, Shooting the Messenger.
Today, Fnord 666 mixed up 2 totally different stories. I asked very very politely, please correct that one. Which he, or she did(thank you, Fnord). But, you decided to jump on me again. And mock me with, "oh, I'm only asking as you appear to be an expert on the editing process." You call it a "process," it looks like total chaos to me. Shooting the Messenger again. I'm not an expert. But, I know the Editors can cancel a story after they approve it. And, they can create a new story with whatever headline. With whatever Summary they want. But oh, I'm the bad man. Let's mock Donald J. Trump for not being European. I'm not European, my parents (RIP!!) were European. From EU sectors. But that's not good enough for you. EU is dieing, America is, very quickly, becoming Great Again. But you love to lord it over us. Like the European Elites did before our Revolution. What a snob!!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @11:48PM
I think we just found our first volunteer for SoylentGreen
(Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Saturday May 11 2019, @04:56AM (7 children)
Both Fnord and myself were involved in resolving the bad merge. The problem with simply cancelling a story is that it screws up the karma and can also play havoc with the comments. It is not necessarily so simple as cancelling a story. If we cancel a story then the individuals who have commented have had their opinions removed too. That would seem like censorship to some of our community. We would be accused of suppressing views that we did not like. So the action to make sure that all who had submitted submissions got the recognition that they deserved was taken by me. I published all of the subs. At that point you could not see them. We can release stories which simply do not display on the front page. This is how we can do late merges and make sure that the submitters get the credit that is owing to the them. I did this while you were still 'asking' for changes to be made. They had been done, I told you that you would get your karma.
If we simply edit a poor merge that includes, as this did, 2 different stories, then the comments can become screwed up because some comments belong to one story and some to another. Someone has to go through the comments and, reallocate them to a new place, or at least check every comment to make sure that it is still appropriate. I spent a lot of time at the hospital yesterday, I did what I could in the little free time that I had. When FNord arrived back on the site he did the bulk of the work, checked the comments, and released the hidden stories so that all submissions could be read.
If we delete a story and 'recreate' it then the person who recreates it gets the karma, they have become the submitter. That would be unfair to the original submitters. It is not a trivial task and it is not something that can be done with the click of a few buttons. If you think the front page looks old school, you ought to see the 'tools' we have for editing and managing stories.
But I'm afraid that another problem lies with you. You wrote in a style that reflects your adopted persona. I cannot tell when you are trying to write seriously or trying yet again to raise a cheap laugh. All that was necessary was 'Incorrect stores merged - Editors please check' and it would have been much clearer to us. You are probably not surprised to hear that some people don't bother to read your comments because of your style of parody when writing. Your full paragraph of Trump-ish comments was simply ignored initially, certainly by me. If, in future, you leave the sarcasm and 'humour' for your usual comments, but write serious comments in simple and clear English then it would aid us considerably.
Finally, no harm was done. The site didn't crash. Nobody died. Mistakes will happen. Lessons will be learned. The editors all have real lives to live. Nobody was too confused by the 2 stories appearing under the same title. Please don't expect 24/7 response from volunteers who are doing a reasonable job in the circumstances.
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday May 11 2019, @06:40AM (6 children)
I wrote, "cancel." I don't know what you call it. I don't know. Possibly you have a very special word for that one. But I did, I think 4 Subs. About the Sharks. 4 totally different stories, you (for some reason) did the "merge" of those. Approved the "merge" and it supposedly was going to appear on Main "Page." But it never appeared. Somebody stopped it from going up there. Unfortunately. I got Karma. But, no one saw the stories on Front "Page." No one got to Tweet on those. That's what I called the "cancel." And when I put in the "meta" Sub saying, there's a bad "merge," there was time to do the "cancel." Because, story wasn't on Main, or Front "Page" yet. But nobody got to that in time. That's OK. That's OK.
(Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Saturday May 11 2019, @07:07AM
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/05/10/1317231 - Bitcoin stolen in Binance attack
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/05/10/050243 - FBI closure of website
All of your submissions, merged with the appropriate stories are on the front page. If you look at the links I have just posted you can see them there. All 4 submissions received the appropriate karma.
Good, because we are not Twitter. You are talking Trumpish again.
If you pay me the full rate of pay, I will sit on this site for a full working day. Pay for 3 editors per day for 7 days a week, and you can have 24 hour coverage. Until then, you have to wait for an editor to be available. When we are here, we will process your requests - if necessary. We are not employed by you, how about you show a little bit of commonsense regarding the running of this site.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday May 11 2019, @07:57AM (4 children)
I'll answer this separately as it is only loosely related to the subject being discussed in this thread.
When we have several stories on the same or a similar topic in the submission queue we can do a 'standard' merge that combines the stories together so that they can be processed accordingly. Having several stories merged does NOT always mean that they have been accepted for release but merely that they are related and should all be managed and released together in a single story.
If editors decide that the combined stories are not subsequently worth publishing (dupes, not worth discussing, poorly written, better stories available etc) they can be deleted using a single delete command. I try make a comment explaining why I have rejected stories but I do not recall these stories and I do not recall rejecting them. I might have done it, but it could have been another editor. We are fortunately looking at about 100 stories currently in the subs queue - we will pick the best from that selection.
If stories become stale (i.e too old or now irrelevant) they are often deleted by date. There is no mechanism for adding a explanation for deletion if several submissions are deleted at the same time or, if there is, I don't know of it.
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday May 11 2019, @08:26AM (3 children)
The merge of Shark Stories made it to Pending Stories. But, not to Front(Main) Page -- canceled, or whatever your very special word is. And the merge of Binance "Hack" with DeepDotWeb Seizure was in Pending Stories when I saw it was a mistake. Could have been canceled before Front "Page." Doesn't matter!!
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday May 11 2019, @09:03AM (2 children)
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 11 2019, @09:57AM (1 child)
I just wanted to say that you have shown remarkable restraint when dealing with DonaldTrump, whether he is "real" or not. At this point I think you are well within your right to just tell him to fuck off and go back to twitface (or whatever the hell they are calling it these days).
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday May 11 2019, @11:10AM
Thank you - this job isn't always as easy as it seems.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday May 10 2019, @06:22PM
There are lots of other places you can get outrage instead of news.
But it would be unwise for me to name any of them.
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