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posted by Fnord666 on Friday May 10 2019, @12:02PM   Printer-friendly
from the unsurprising dept.

From ieee

Female IEEE members say they face significant discrimination in the workplace, including demeaning comments, inappropriate job-interview questions, and exclusion from networking events and important business meetings.

Those were among the most common negative experiences reported by more than 4,500 members—associate member grade and above—from around the world who answered a survey IEEE conducted in 2017. The results were released last year.

Almost half of those surveyed worked in academia, and about 30 percent were from private industry. The rest worked for governmental or nonprofit institutions, or were graduate students or self-employed. The majority of respondents (65 percent) lived outside the United States.


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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday May 11 2019, @01:08AM (8 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday May 11 2019, @01:08AM (#842171) Journal

    Okay, you've got some pertinent points there. It won't work out that way in real life of course, but at least in principle you're correct. I just don't think our admins and eds are taking proper precautions.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 11 2019, @01:25AM (7 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 11 2019, @01:25AM (#842177) Journal

    I just don't think our admins and eds are taking proper precautions.

    Neither do I. But that's not a reason to shoot ourselves in the foot asking them to dismiss a good story for the faults of the submitter.

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    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday May 11 2019, @01:47AM (6 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday May 11 2019, @01:47AM (#842186) Journal

      I've seen NPC's schtick and I don't trust his motives. He has an obvious sock with a UID 3 higher and a username that's literally exactly the same +1, who seems to be playing the unironic bad cop to NPC's ironic "good" cop. It's childish, puerile, a waste of time and bandwidth, and serves no purpose other than stirring shit for cheap laughs and outrage bait.

      He's also uncovered quite a nasty loophole in the wetware portion of the site's code, and it's not one that I see ever getting fixed :/

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Saturday May 11 2019, @02:10AM (5 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 11 2019, @02:10AM (#842194) Journal

        He's also uncovered quite a nasty loophole in the wetware portion of the site's code, and it's not one that I see ever getting fixed :/

        You mean another loophole in the submission system, beyond bomb-sunbmission by:
        - rDT - all submission linked to FauxNews, oann [wikipedia.org] or breitbarf; even when the same story can be obtained from new outlets without a skin in US politics (eg BBC or abc.net.au) or the news agencies like reuters and afp,
        - the use of bots to scour the internet, even when there are heaps of stories already submitted by soylenters

        This tactic affords the editors plausible deniability in keeping a story they don't like until it gets that old they can reject it as "no longer news" - in which case they don't even bother to put a reason for it's rejection.

        My opinion? Until the (non-AC) soylenters don't have a feedback on the publishing of a story, there are so many things the editors can use to have their game that I dare not to list them (lest I give them ideas).
        The feedback may not need to be the full greensite firehose.

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday May 11 2019, @02:27AM (4 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday May 11 2019, @02:27AM (#842198) Journal

          The loophole I have in mind is best summarized by "people with an agenda can state "innocent facts" and still be pushing their agenda," which Janrinok pointedly refused to understand in #editorial despite my trying the same analogy with him THREE. TIMES. The example was, "When someone keeps spam-posting "it's okay to be white," what is this person actually saying and why? Think about it."

          What's being exploited here is an almost robotic adherence to the idea of "only consider the content, not the source or the poster." You can see why that's an exploitable logical error, right, especially in light of the above?

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          • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 11 2019, @05:19AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 11 2019, @05:19AM (#842226)

            This is why deplatforming doesn't work. "No smoke without fire" is a very old meme.
            If what someone says is threatening enough that you will go to the effort of trying to shut them down, then there must be some substance behind their words. All deplatforming does is spark interest, and lend credence.

            • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 11 2019, @01:41PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 11 2019, @01:41PM (#842299)

              All deplatforming does is spark interest, and lend credence.

              Won't if nobody knows about it that is what actually happens most of the times.

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 11 2019, @09:29AM (1 child)

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 11 2019, @09:29AM (#842258) Journal

            Azuma, buddy, in this case, I think you are overreacting.
            Suppose TFA would have been from an AC submission - sincerely, what would have been your reaction to the story?

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            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday May 11 2019, @03:35PM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday May 11 2019, @03:35PM (#842328) Journal

              "Ugh, another one of these? I bet it's one of our resident shit-stirrers trying to rile up the base again for the lulz. I really ought to go poke the eds and suggest they stop letting so much of this crap through..."

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