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posted by martyb on Wednesday May 15 2019, @11:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the Storks-on-Strike? dept.

CNN:

The report, published Wednesday, showed that birth rates declined for nearly all age groups of women younger than 35 but rose for women in their late 30s and early 40s.

From 2017 to 2018, the birth rate dropped 7% among teenagers aged 15 to 19; 4% among women 20 to 24; 3% among women 25 to 29; and 1% among women 30 to 34, according to the report.

The birth rate rose 1% among women aged 35 to 39 and 2% among women 40 to 44. The rate for women 45 to 49, which also includes births to women 50 and older, did not change from 2017 to 2018.

On the other hand, there have been recent studies that indicate children born to older women enjoy better long term academic and professional success.


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  • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by aristarchus on Thursday May 16 2019, @06:46AM (14 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday May 16 2019, @06:46AM (#844161) Journal

    If only unborn aristarchus submissions were given the same chance . . .

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday May 16 2019, @07:04AM (13 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 16 2019, @07:04AM (#844169) Journal

    If only unborn aristarchus submissions contained something new worth discussing.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by c0lo on Thursday May 16 2019, @09:55AM (10 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 16 2019, @09:55AM (#844201) Journal

      Mate, I had big troubles of stopping myself shouting a FU aloud in your direction.
      Not only would have been useless but would have annoyed the respectable co-commuters on the train.

      And the reasons for this:
      - TFA on social issues (political or not) attract more participation on S/N
      - here's an example of ari/azuma submission that went viral [soylentnews.org], but lingered in the S/N queue until rejected (I can bet, without reason).
      Guess what? Instead of discussing it on S/N, I'm reading it on hacker news [ycombinator.com].
      Can you imagine something more idiotic than still staying on S/N under these conditions?

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday May 16 2019, @11:40AM (8 children)

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 16 2019, @11:40AM (#844230) Journal

        If a story about dogs attracted more interest than other stories should we then concentrate on dog stories? There are other sites that cover such material, but dogs are not SN's raison d'etre. We stick to those topics that we were established to discuss although we often stretch that to edge cases too. Publishing a story about racism or the alt-right on the front page would have the majority of our community shouting to have it removed. Even a story about falling birthrates attracts extremists of all colours and persuasions who seem incapable of holding an intelligent discussion.

        here's an example of ari/azuma submission that went viral

        By viral, you mean 59 comments - so fractionally more than yesterday's discussion on the Linux Kernel or the EU's introduction of SCA, but much less than the discussion on generic drug prices that went out on Monday.

        Yet it was discussed on this site without changing the emphasis on topics on which this site concentrates. That is why we have journals. That is exactly why, when I personally reject a story, I advise the submitter to put it in their journal if I feel it is worth discussing. However, not every story deserves to be on the front page. That is a choice that we have to make every day with every story. You have been with this site from the very beginning - you of all people will remember why this site exists and what we concentrate on. Yet you and others also argue about the wisdom of publishing stories that you believe favour the political right, but advocate other stories stating the opposite views. None of them have a right to a place on the front page but they are welcome in journals where the community can discuss them to their heart's content.

        Why don't you ask Aristarchus and Azuma why they don't publish more stories like the one you referred to in their journals?

        Instead of discussing it on S/N, I'm reading it on hacker news

        There is nothing to say that you cannot read other sites. If they are printing stories that interest you by all means read those too. The team that manages this site is not responsible for what is published on Hacker News.

        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday May 16 2019, @12:35PM (7 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 16 2019, @12:35PM (#844244) Journal

          If a story about dogs attracted more interest than other stories should we then concentrate on dog stories

          Better than STEM stories with no comments [soylentnews.org] after more than half a day after publishing, any time. Yes, bring in the dogs!

          By viral, you mean 59 comments
          By viral I mean viral on all the other internet [reddit.com] places [boingboing.net] that [ycombinator.com] people [twitter.com] congregate [google.com].
          Even the subhumans were mildly interested [4chan.org].
          Not S/N, no, Jan the man knows better, he is there to protect the insipid silence or promote STEM stories in which STEM NPC-es are trolling to disperse the boredom [soylentnews.org].

          Yet it was discussed on this site without changing the emphasis on topics on which this site concentrates. That is why we have journals.
          No, it was not discussed there, because it was not posted as jurnal entry, it was submitted (and died) in the queue. I mentioned [soylentnews.org] it there as a way to gauge the editors reaction.

          God, you are dense or just fake one perfectly (if you do the latter, beware, you may be stuck in the state). It would have taken you 3 clicks to get to a link to one of the original [soylentnews.org] submission that was silently rejected. I lost ari's submission, not saving a link to it.

          Why don't you ask Aristarchus and Azuma why they don't publish more stories like the one you referred to in their journals?

          Ok, I'm at home now, I can afford a "FUCK YOU" without annoying anyone!!!
          If you persist on this position, I have absolutely no reason at all to dwell on S/N anymore.

          There is nothing to say that you cannot read other sites.

          So, you are aware of it. Good, I get it, you are doing on purpose.

           

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          • (Score: 4, Informative) by janrinok on Thursday May 16 2019, @01:26PM (3 children)

            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 16 2019, @01:26PM (#844262) Journal

            Jan the man knows better

            You seem to think that I alone rejected the story. All the editors rejected the story. Not one of them picked it up to publish it. I am not responsible for the editors - I stepped down from that post last year. Each editor can make his or her own decisions. I just come on here to give my opinion, which I couldn't do as EinC. We are all volunteers but I certainly didn't volunteer to spend my time on political rants or stories explaining how extremists recruit young teenagers. The entire team is still following the directions made 5 years ago that were decided by the community.

            No, it was not discussed there, because it was not posted as journal entry

            And I replied "Why don't you ask Aristarchus and Azuma why they don't publish more stories like the one you referred to in their journals?" But if you look in both Ari's and Azuma's journals the story was mentioned but it failed to gain any traction as a topic. And, as you yourself have just pointed out, it was widely discussed elsewhere - why should we repeat it here when it has already been covered and is off topic for this site? We are not competing with those other sites. They do not have the same emphasis as we chose to have back in 2014. Why is this a surprise to you now?

            Do you not remember the heated discussions between Barrabas and NCommander. Do you not recall the extensive discussion that was held regarding the form and direction this site should adopt, and how the entire community got to vote?

            How about you write a journal entry about how this site must change direction, how you propose that we get feedback from the whole community on your suggestion, and then identify the people who are prepared to help achieve that goal?

            • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Thursday May 16 2019, @04:00PM (2 children)

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 16 2019, @04:00PM (#844318) Journal

              You seem to think that I alone rejected the story. All the editors rejected the story. Not one of them picked it up to publish it.

              Thanks, good to know.

              I am not responsible for the editors - I stepped down from that post last year... I just come on here to give my opinion, which I couldn't do as EinC

              Something [soylentnews.org] doesn't [soylentnews.org] fit [soylentnews.org] in the picture - as an example of 3 stories posted by janrinok.
              Doesn't "posting" imply "approval to publish a submission on the main page"?

              How about you write a journal entry about how this site must change direction

              How about I stop wasting my time on S/N - after I'll grant you one last +Informative mod for "All editors rejected the story".
              Clearly, is the minimal change in the order of this world that will restore the balance and let you and the editors to enjoy the company of NPC-es.

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              • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday May 16 2019, @05:15PM (1 child)

                by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 16 2019, @05:15PM (#844354) Journal

                I am still an editor but I am no longer Editor in Chief. I have no influence over what other editors do or do not do.

                • (Score: 2, Informative) by c0lo on Thursday May 16 2019, @05:25PM

                  by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 16 2019, @05:25PM (#844358) Journal

                  I am no longer Editor in Chief

                  Bottom line? Makes no difference to me.

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          • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 16 2019, @11:18PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 16 2019, @11:18PM (#844508)

            First One [soylentnews.org]
            Second One [soylentnews.org]
            Follow up article submission [soylentnews.org]
            Boing-boing Sub [soylentnews.org]
            Stealth submission [soylentnews.org]

            I Think that's all. Haruki's sub was much better, though.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 17 2019, @12:25PM (1 child)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 17 2019, @12:25PM (#844674) Journal

            Better than STEM stories with no comments [soylentnews.org] after more than half a day after publishing, any time. Yes, bring in the dogs!

            The problem with most of these STEM stories, comment-wise, is that there's not much to say about them, much less disagree about. The most drama is typically small sample size, the indefinite 10-20 years to market, and attaching say story to some fad of the day (like attributing everything to climate change - which from my experience is one of the few current sources of drama generation in STEM stories).

            I don't see a reason to drop them, because we're more than just comments. But don't expect commenting on most of those stories to match political stories with more interest and vastly more disagreement.

            Sure, it'd be nice to get some other metrics of interest than comments (like how many distinct IPs read a story would be a good metric), but we come across another problem here. Supposedly, the political stories are due to people with non-STEM interests joining the site. If that continues, then you're stuck with something of a problem - namely, that the new readers prefer to read and comment on things different from the old readers.

            • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Sulla on Friday May 17 2019, @06:51PM

              by Sulla (5173) on Friday May 17 2019, @06:51PM (#844808) Journal

              I often post on these low comment articles to say that even though they do not get much discussion I love seeing them on the site. I don't read any one specific news source, although I go to google news and drudge to see the spin from both directions and see what the headlines are. I like that SN acts as an aggregator for tech and science related things. Although i would like discussion on these topics, as you said there tends to not be much to say about them. Highly commented stories do not mean its of higher value.

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              Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
      • (Score: 0, Interesting) by khallow on Friday May 17 2019, @12:45PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 17 2019, @12:45PM (#844680) Journal

        - here's an example of ari/azuma submission that went viral [soylentnews.org], but lingered in the S/N queue until rejected (I can bet, without reason).

        Umm, I saw crap there. Why was the submission supposed to be worthy of getting on the Front Page. For example, the Salon story was about someone who supposedly fell out of the libertarian religion, but could never articulate why libertarianism was supposed to be so bad in the first place. For example:

        My sobriety from libertarianism did not result from a dramatic rock bottom moment, merely an awakening back into the reality I had earlier accepted; a fresh, but familiar realization that individuals myopically pursuing their own interests have no solution to ecological catastrophe, thousands dying for lack of health insurance, lethal disparities in the public education system, and the unending terror and devastation of racism. I could not align with any political ideology that did not instinctively, and deliberately, side with the victims of unjust police shootings, the poor children in dysfunctional schools, or the families drinking poison in Flint, Michigan.

        How is his current belief system doing any better on that? For example, do individuals myopically pursuing their own interests have a better outcome in his newer belief system? Libertarianism isn't the belief that we should all do such, but rather an attempt at a solution to that problem (mostly by advocating viewpoints and societal infrastructure that makes most of that harmless or even possibly beneficial).

        Basically, what happened was that the person got married and changed their beliefs - perhaps to maintain marital harmony. Happens all the time and doesn't usually require multipage rambling to describe nor a place on SN's front page.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 20 2019, @08:11AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 20 2019, @08:11AM (#845450)

      If only unaccepted janrinock submissions, . . . but then they would be, eh? This is what we are on about. Censorship on The SolynetNews: Tacit censorship, mild censorship, down-low censorship. But it all protects the alt-right, and its broad-brush cousin, the TMB. Admit it, JR, you are protecting the snowflacke alt-right! The Buzzard just cannot take it! What a pathetic bird, and a mediocre editore. I expected better.

      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday May 20 2019, @11:16AM

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 20 2019, @11:16AM (#845473) Journal

        If only unaccepted janrinock submissions, . . . but then they would be, eh?

        The language in use on this site is English, If you use it perhaps I will understand what you are trying to say. If only unaccepted janrinok submissions what? There are a few missing parts to your sentence structure.

        Censorship on The SolynetNews: Tacit censorship, mild censorship, down-low censorship. But it all protects the alt-right, and its broad-brush cousin, the TMB.

        We do not stop anyone from saying whatever they wish - that would be censorship. But we do not do that. You have just proven that fact by displaying whatever you are rambling about here.

        However, the entire team does manage a website that produces an aggregated summary of interesting stories that are on-topic for this site. We do not have to include low quality stories or submissions that do not comply with our submission guidelines, or are not in the topics of interest that this site is established to cover, or are repetitive attempts at expressing your own political views. Such expressions of extreme views are unwanted here. If you want to discuss the alt-right, either for or against it, I suggest that you visit a site that discusses such topics. There are plenty around - but we are not one of them.