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posted by martyb on Saturday May 18 2019, @05:10AM   Printer-friendly
from the Jovienvironmentalism dept.

In a paper published April 16th researchers make the case that we should designate and protect 85% of the solar system as 'protected wilderness'

We make a general argument that, as a matter of fixed policy, development should be limited to one eighth, with the remainder set aside. We argue that adopting a "one-eighth principle" is far less restrictive, overall, than it might seem. One eighth of the iron in the asteroid belt is more than a million times greater than all of the Earth's currently estimated iron ore reserves, and it may well suffice for centuries.

The rational for the limitation is more to do with the nature of human expansion rather than just protecting the environment of the rest of the solar system.

A limit of some sort is necessary because of the problems associated with exponential growth. We note that humans are poor at estimating the pace of such growth and, as a result, the limitations of a resource are hard to recognize before the final three doubling times. These three doublings take utilization successively from an eighth to a quarter, then to a half, and then to the point of exhaustion. Population growth and climate change are instances of unchecked exponential growth. Each places strains upon our available resources, each is a recognized problem that we would like to control, but attempts to do so at this comparatively late stage in their development have not been encouraging.

There are challenges and the authors point out that inaccessible resources, like Jupiter, should be excluded from the calculation and that more research is needed to even determine the amount of resources accessible with accuracy.

Assessing how many tons of potentially extractable resources are awaiting us on those worlds will require a lot more space exploration

Additionally, this is not a limit we are going to hit anytime soon

"Worldwide, the present rate of planetary mission launches is 15 per decade," the authors wrote. "At this rate, even just the nearly 200 worlds of the solar system that gravity has made spherical would take 130 years to visit once."

As an aside, it is not a given that resources in Jupiter are inaccessible with numerous articles on atmospheric mining and extraction approaches and even colonization of Jupiter available.


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 18 2019, @01:23PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 18 2019, @01:23PM (#845001)

    What short sighted greedy nonsense. Such attitudes are exactly why we have so many extinct species today and a variety of ecological emergencies. What about careless activity sending small asteroids out of the belt for potential collisions? What about toxic waste, what about some company putting space mines to protect their claim?

    So many possibilities for humans to fuck shit up. Maybe try being less of a total individualistic total freedom type? Government is a required aspect forarge groups of humans living together, just get over it and focus on fixing the problems instead of wishing gov would disappear.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 18 2019, @06:28PM (1 child)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 18 2019, @06:28PM (#845103) Journal

    Isn't space itself a toxic wasteland? You can't go there without a bunch of PPE - Personal Protective Gear. Starting with your radiation-proof Mormon undies, available from that incorrigible capitalist, Mitt Romney.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 19 2019, @01:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 19 2019, @01:49PM (#845235)

      What I don't get, is how my post about Hydro Quebec, power dams, and dead rock, makes the poster above think I'm upset about the government?!

      People in the know, would know that the Government of Quebec *owns and controls* Hydro Quebec, and here I'm advocating they *build more dams*. Huh? Guess I must really hate the government, yes?

      Sometimes, dead rock is just dead rock. And the response to my statement, as far as I see, clarifies the problems some people have. The 'either/or' problem.

      You see, there are two choices in some people's minds. All, or none. Everything must be protected environmentally, or nothing. Government must have regulations for everything, or nothing. Laws must be crafted for all behaviour, or none.

      The person replying to my post seems to have this ... viewpoint. That if you don't want everything regulated, you must therefore want nothing regulated (eg, I must hate the government, and society).

      Pure madness. True, real, genuine concern and care for the environment, for people, means you must assess each situation individually.

      The most logical response to my post, was the person discussing the original article, and resource usage / finite availability. But good grief, can anyone think of a law from 1000AD that is still, unchanged, unvarnished, unmodified, that is a strong limiter today?

      The very idea that:

      - countries like the US, China, Canada, France, whatever will still exist in 1000 years, is illogical -- history shows otherwise.

      Borders will be re-written, countries will fall/change, etc

      - culture will remain constant...

      Our grandchildren will think us quaint and stodgy.
      Our 10/20th generation descendants will think that something we're doing now, today, that ALL Of us, every last one of us thinks is "good", is "horrible" and "insane".
      Our decedents 1000 years hence, will have no idea wtf we were thinking, will have an entirely different culture, and won't even be able to reason with many decisions we make, how we live our lives, etc

      - tech won't change both of the above

      I mean, this entire concept of legislating something many, many hundreds or even thousands of years away, is sheer insanity.

      Can you imagine someone at 1000AD, trying to decide if they should pass legislation for .. self driving cars? They already had self-driving cars, called "horses", and they worked very sensibly, when they knew the way home... of course, like today, driver attention couldn't wander too much. ;P

      Or how about, people 1000 years ago deciding to legislate... hmm, data protection laws? Nano-tech? Autonomous / AI war machinery? Drones flying near airports?

      So yes, let's try to pass legislation that people 300 years, 1000 years from now will .. what?

      Just insane.

      1000 years from now, we'll probably be spread all over the galaxy. Or maybe we'll have perfect energy -> mass conversion, coupled with some form of unlimited (literally) energy.

      But we're going to try to legislate that? Wha?!