Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

posted by janrinok on Thursday May 23 2019, @02:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the urban-rural-divide dept.

Swiss voters on Sunday approved a measure to tighten the Alpine nation's gun laws, bringing the country in line with many of its European partners despite the objections of local gun owners, Swiss media reported, citing official results.

Switzerland's public broadcaster said more than 63% of voters nationwide agreed to align with European Union firearms rules adopted two years ago after deadly attacks in France, Belgium, Germany and Britain.

The vote Sunday was part of Switzerland's regular referendums that give citizens a direct say in policymaking. It had stoked passions in a country with long, proud traditions of gun ownership and sport and target shooting. Switzerland, unlike many other European nations, allows veterans of its obligatory military service for men to take home their service weapons after tours of duty.

The Swiss proposal, among other things, requires regular training on the use of firearms, special waivers to own some semi-automatic weapons and serial number tracking system for key parts of some guns. Gun owners would have to register any weapons not already registered within three years, and keep a registry of their gun collections.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/05/19/tighter-gun-laws-appear-pass-switzerland-despite-opposition/3731629002/


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 23 2019, @10:27PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 23 2019, @10:27PM (#846826)

    It is light, which matters if you have to carry it into the woods. It has little kick. It is easy to get spare parts and accessories for. It is cheap.

    The only failing is that some places consider it too weak for legal hunting. The deer might not die quickly. If that applies, you need the larger AR-10, which looks nearly the same. (the magazine is fatter) There is also a conversion kit for an AR-15 that upgrades to larger ammo, which oddly fits in the standard magazine.

    Those old wooden stock rifles are like manual typewriters. Reminder for the Americans: your first amendment rights do not limit you to manual typewriters.

    Starting Score:    0  points
    Moderation   +1  
       Insightful=1, Total=1
    Extra 'Insightful' Modifier   0  

    Total Score:   1  
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Arik on Friday May 24 2019, @01:13AM (3 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Friday May 24 2019, @01:13AM (#846865) Journal
    Citation please.

    I am unaware of any jurisdiction where a 5.56x45 is considered insufficient for deer.

    For elk, maybe.

    "Those old wooden stock rifles are like manual typewriters."

    Yes indeed. Uncomfortably heavy, but satisfyingly positive in application.

    A very apt comparison.

    "Reminder for the Americans: your first amendment rights do not limit you to manual typewriters."

    And yet another.
    --
    If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @02:12AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @02:12AM (#846892)

      See page 91, Modern Firearm Regulations. .24 (6mm) minimum caliber, centerfire only. For muzzleloaders, the minimum is .40 cal. See page 7 for the definition of big game (spoiler: includes deer).
      https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/02063/2019-2020%20Big%20Game%20Hunting%20Pamphlet.pdf [wa.gov]

      Now you are aware of at least one where the .223 or 5.56 cartridge used in the AR15 is considered too wimpy for deer.

      • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday May 24 2019, @02:33AM (1 child)

        by Arik (4543) on Friday May 24 2019, @02:33AM (#846901) Journal
        "Now you are aware of at least one where the .223 or 5.56 cartridge used in the AR15 is considered too wimpy for deer."

        Indeed I am. Thank you, anonymous sir or madam, for a truly informative post.

        That said, I must point out that this is not a very sensible regulation, as it defines whether or not a weapon is adequate simply by the calibre. Not only is the 5.56 prohibited for deer hunting, so is the 22-250! The 6mm Remington is legal, but the 5.56 is not? Depending on the load there's a hair of difference between the two. And that old .30 carbine that's nowhere near as capable as the 5.56, yeah, that's legal too.

        I'm not trying to narc on the .30 carbine btw. It's fine. But so's the 5.56.

        What doesn't work is someone that thinks that a big powerful cartridge will compensate for lack of accuracy. That is all.
        --
        If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @03:03AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @03:03AM (#846919)

          Well, this is from WA state where even a Marlin Model 60 is now defined as a "semi-automatic assault weapon". Keep expectations low out here on the Pacific coast.