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posted by janrinok on Saturday May 25 2019, @02:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the look-smell-then-taste dept.

CBS News:

When it comes to labels on food, there's no agreed upon wording to let consumers know when to toss packaged grocery items. Public confusion over how long they can keep and safely eat products is part of the reason Americans throw away roughly a third of their food -- about $161 billion worth -- each year.

Compounding the uncertainty for consumers about when to toss food is the array of descriptions producers use to signal a product's shelf life. Those include "use by," "sell by," "freeze by," "best if used before" and "expires on," leaving the public unclear on the safety of products and causing lots of perfectly fine food to get tossed.

[...] Looking to stem the tide of still-edible food that ends of in landfills, the FDA is backing a voluntary industry effort to standardize the "best if used by" wording on packaged food, saying it should curb consumer confusion thought to contribute to about 20% of food wasted in U.S. homes.

[...] Still, the FDA's guidance may not go far in clearing up the public's misunderstanding about labels, observers said. For one, the labeling only applies to food quality, not its safety.

[...] The [Grocery Manufacturers Association] and the Food Marketing Institute in January 2017 recommended making the phrase uniform, along with use of the "use by" phrase to indicate when food should no longer be eaten for safety reasons. In a letter to the food industry, the FDA said it would not address the latter phrase "at this time."

Predicting when food is past its prime is an inexact science, according to Kevin Smith, senior advisor for food safety in the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition. He said consumers should regularly examine food in their kitchen cabinets or pantries that have passed their "best if used by" dates, and throw out if they've noticeably changed in color, consistency or texture.

"Food is much safer than it was a few decades ago, largely because of refrigeration and dramatically improved manufacturing processes. But to really address the problem with food waste, the FDA should tell people something more meaningful than open it, look at it, smell it, and if it seems OK, eat away, otherwise, toss," Steinzor added.

The FDA should instead define when foods become risky to eat based on shelf life and require those dates be disclosed, she said.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 25 2019, @02:40PM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 25 2019, @02:40PM (#847598)

    >open it, look at it, smell it
    Also taste a little bit and if it is not the normal taste, spit it out and toss it

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by RS3 on Saturday May 25 2019, @03:00PM (10 children)

    by RS3 (6367) on Saturday May 25 2019, @03:00PM (#847607)

    This. ^^^

    I'll add: use your senses and wits even before opening. If it looks bad, moldy, rotten, etc., don't open! No need to spread bacteria or mold spores. Canned foods will exhibit pressure: the ends of the cans will bow outward, obviously not flat, if bacteria are growing. Do NOT open that can!

    That said, recently I opened some older canned foods (that had no internal pressure) just to see if they were still good and nope, not edible. I suppose if you were truly starving you might eat it, but you might get sick anyway.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Saturday May 25 2019, @03:34PM (7 children)

      by Gaaark (41) on Saturday May 25 2019, @03:34PM (#847622) Journal

      My problem is, I am always stuffed up and can rarely taste food unless it is highly spicedor has horseradish or the like in it. I'd have to get someone else to taste my food for off-taste/smell. :(

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      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 25 2019, @04:04PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 25 2019, @04:04PM (#847635)

        Being stuffed up all the time is a symptom of having a booger made of dark matter stuck way back in your nose.

        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Sunday May 26 2019, @02:21AM (2 children)

          by Gaaark (41) on Sunday May 26 2019, @02:21AM (#847770) Journal

          Ha, I like that: +1 informative, lol.

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          • (Score: 3, Funny) by Snotnose on Sunday May 26 2019, @03:35AM (1 child)

            by Snotnose (1623) on Sunday May 26 2019, @03:35AM (#847797)

            Fixed it for you, I thought it was interesting :)

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            • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Sunday May 26 2019, @04:18AM

              by Gaaark (41) on Sunday May 26 2019, @04:18AM (#847807) Journal

              :)
              You would, snotnose! XD

              Thumbs way up on this, lol.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by RS3 on Saturday May 25 2019, @04:25PM (2 children)

        by RS3 (6367) on Saturday May 25 2019, @04:25PM (#847642)

        IIRC, one of the many reasons for the spice trade, trade route exploration, Columbus, etc., was that spices are somewhat a preservative. So if that's true, you are well defended and well-preserved. No horse will live inside of you!

        • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Sunday May 26 2019, @04:23AM (1 child)

          by Snotnose (1623) on Sunday May 26 2019, @04:23AM (#847810)

          Except for salt spices don't preserve the food. They cover up the taste of rotting/spoiled food.

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by edIII on Monday May 27 2019, @11:57PM (1 child)

      by edIII (791) on Monday May 27 2019, @11:57PM (#848335)

      Your paradigm doesn't cover all use cases. I was visiting a friend in college and got the munchies. Lucky enough to locate a half full jar of home made salsa in a mayo jar in the fridge.

      It was already open and pouring out over the tortilla chips before I realized it was the mayonnaise.

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      • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday May 28 2019, @03:24AM

        by RS3 (6367) on Tuesday May 28 2019, @03:24AM (#848395)

        Well, if "munchies" were involved then something else was influencing things and all bets were off.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by VLM on Saturday May 25 2019, @03:13PM (4 children)

    by VLM (445) on Saturday May 25 2019, @03:13PM (#847613)

    taste a little bit and if it is not the normal taste, spit it out and toss it

    That's quite enough to get some forms of food poisoning anyway, botulism, etc, sadly.

    Also there's probably some kind of funny sex joke in there somewhere.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by hemocyanin on Saturday May 25 2019, @03:40PM

      by hemocyanin (186) on Saturday May 25 2019, @03:40PM (#847626) Journal

      taste a little bit and if it is not the normal taste, spit it out and toss it

      Also there's probably some kind of funny sex joke in there somewhere.

      That's what she said.

      (been rewatching The Office recently)

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 25 2019, @05:31PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 25 2019, @05:31PM (#847668)

      > botulism...

      This! Canned string beans killed a friend of a friend this way, possibly the pH was wrong? The person that canned them at home ate his own product, remarked on how tasty they were, and died in minutes in front of my friend (who luckily didn't try any of these beans).

      Taste catches many kinds of food poisoning, but not all.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by rleigh on Saturday May 25 2019, @06:29PM

        by rleigh (4887) on Saturday May 25 2019, @06:29PM (#847677) Homepage

        That sounds like a failure in the canning process, and really bad luck. I've not come across it being done at home before. Industrial canning and bottling usually puts the product through a Pasteuriser prior to labelling. That should kill off the bacteria. If that or the seal fails, then the pressure in the can and/or the smell should be indicative of spoiling. We've recovered cans from Victorian shipwrecks which were still perfectly sealed and edible (though with some contaminating lead leached out of the solder seals used back then).

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by ElizabethGreene on Saturday May 25 2019, @08:06PM

        by ElizabethGreene (6748) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 25 2019, @08:06PM (#847695) Journal

        Here in the US this is extremely rare, literally a one-in-10 million (per year) chance.

        Source: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/10/9/03-0745_article [cdc.gov]

  • (Score: 2) by datapharmer on Saturday May 25 2019, @11:09PM

    by datapharmer (2702) on Saturday May 25 2019, @11:09PM (#847739)

    That’s true for quality, but not safety. The microbes that are dangerous often aren’t associated with off flavors or visual clues.

  • (Score: 2) by Muad'Dave on Wednesday May 29 2019, @02:56PM

    by Muad'Dave (1413) on Wednesday May 29 2019, @02:56PM (#848918)

    This is also what the USDA recommends [usda.gov]:

    With an exception of infant formula (described below), if the date passes during home storage, a product should still be safe and wholesome if handled properly until the time spoilage is evident (Chill Refrigerate Promptly). Spoiled foods will develop an off odor, flavor or texture due to naturally occurring spoilage bacteria. If a food has developed such spoilage characteristics, it should not be eaten.

    Microorganisms such as molds, yeasts, and bacteria can multiply and cause food to spoil. Viruses are not capable of growing in food and do not cause spoilage. There are two types of bacteria that can be found on food: pathogenic bacteria, which cause foodborne illness, and spoilage bacteria, which do not cause illness but do cause foods to deteriorate and develop unpleasant characteristics such as an undesirable taste or odor making the food not wholesome. When spoilage bacteria have nutrients (food), moisture, time, and favorable temperatures, these conditions will allow the bacteria to grow rapidly and affect the quality of the food. Food spoilage can occur much faster if food is not stored or handled properly. A change in the color of meat or poultry is not an indicator of spoilage.