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posted by janrinok on Thursday June 13 2019, @07:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the would-totally-not-happen dept.

The UK Home Secretary Sajid Javid has signed off on the extradition of Julian Assange to the United States, reports El Reg.

Javid's certifying of the US extradition request lodged this week is the first formal step in having Assange sent across the pond. The next phase is tomorrow, when Belmarsh Magistrates' Court will set a date for a full extradition hearing. After that, assuming a district judge (full-time professional magistrate) OKs the extradition, Javid himself will make the final decision on whether or not to send the one-time chief WikiLeaker to America, as UK.gov's website explains. It is almost certain Assange will file an appeal to the High Court after the district judge's ruling, and again (as the law allows) after the Home Secretary's final decision.

In the US, Assange will face charges of violating espionage law.


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 13 2019, @09:16PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 13 2019, @09:16PM (#855288)

    That as far as I know these are *NEW* charges made up in 2019, because the original charges when he ducked into the Ecuadorian embassy wouldn't have stuck and also wouldn't have been extradictable according to the UK government of the time. Now... 7 years later both the Ecudorian's and the British are rolling over because the US scratched their bellies with political incentives, and threw out a bunch of new charges that are more palatable to the extraditing authorities.

    People need to look close and wake up. Citizenship means shit today, and the only way we will protect each other is to stop pointing our weapons (whether guns, knives, or fists) at our fellow citizen and start pointing them at the government, the merchant princes and aristocracy, and the tools of the regime by way of the law enforcement divisions of our respective countries. They are rarely here to protect us rather than the status quo. If you find ones who are true members of the community, show them some individual respect so far as they continue earning it. But as an institution, show them as little respect as you can get away with under the law.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 13 2019, @09:27PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 13 2019, @09:27PM (#855292)

    I don't have any evidence, but I'm going to make unsubstantiated claims anyway!

    Government sometimes do unethical and bad things, therefore all laws are repressive!

    Wake up sheeple! If you aren't against all forms of government, you're part of the problem!

    But don't take up arms against the evil gub'mint! Just try to cheat them when you can!

    There's no point in trying to strengthen the rule of law. So let's just subvert it more!

    That's it! That's the ticket!

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 13 2019, @09:31PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 13 2019, @09:31PM (#855294)

      And soon will come the troll mods, as folks aren't interested in discussing all angles, just in confirming their own beliefs and prejudices.

      Because anyone who doesn't believe the same way must be evildoers who want to enslave them, or puppets of those who do.

      It's not possible to hold contrary positions without being evil and wrong. amirite?

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday June 14 2019, @12:46PM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday June 14 2019, @12:46PM (#855506) Journal

        When you come in with apologia for parties that are clearly acting on a vendetta rather than an actual crime, then yes. When you defend a rigged game that is our modern system, then yes.

        You're effectively behaving like a lickspittle in service to Al Capone, who declares that those accusing him of murder are conspiracy theorists right after he has beaten John Scalise to death with a baseball bat.

        --
        Washington DC delenda est.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 14 2019, @02:00PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 14 2019, @02:00PM (#855541)

          No. There's no apologia there. The US government has acted shamefully both in the actions revealed by Manning/Wikileaks and the hounding of Assange.

          I'm instead railing against statements which are unsupported by evidence or rational argument. The person I responded to was encouraging armed insurrection and further dilution of the rule of law. Not supporting those things makes me an apologist and a lickspittle? I'm sorry, I haven't seen you on the news getting arrested or shot dead for armed insurrection against the US government.

          By your logic, that makes you a lickspittle apologist too, right?

          What's more, instead of getting cogent, reasoned arguments (or any arguments at all) it's just troll mods and blather [soylentnews.org], as I predicted [soylentnews.org].

          Even *factual* statements [soylentnews.org] as to official statements are shouted down [soylentnews.org] with no evidence, and arguments that boil down to "you're wrong!" even though I just paraphrased the link provided, while *specifically* stating that I could not verify the veracity of the claims made.

          That's not discussion. That's not even advocacy. That's just moronic posturing.

          So if desiring to discuss facts and evidence with reasoned argument makes me a "lickspittle" apologist, then so be it.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 13 2019, @10:54PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 13 2019, @10:54PM (#855338)

      Hello fren [justice.gov], you were sayin'? [soylentnews.org]

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Thursday June 13 2019, @09:55PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday June 13 2019, @09:55PM (#855303) Journal

    That as far as I know these are *NEW* charges made up in 2019, because the original charges when he ducked into the Ecuadorian embassy wouldn't have stuck and also wouldn't have been extradictable according to the UK government of the time.

    He wouldn't have been extraditable under the Obama admin because they never charged him with anything. Their policy was that he was acting as a journalist.

    Now, 7 years later, the "I love Wikileaks" administration decides to charge him for the first time, with an extraditable offense. And, because we have an extradition treaty with the UK, he gets to come here for trial.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 14 2019, @05:20PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 14 2019, @05:20PM (#855657)

    > Citizenship means shit

    As an Aussie who dared leave for more than five years, I came back to basically being a non-citizen, except for my passport....and the right to pay taxes. All they do is insinuate that you only came back to take advantage of Medicare* and social security. So those were denied. Two years of unemployment and then a medical problem that I couldn't get attended. I was back on a plane after that, using the last of my savings. Never again. Fuck that small-minded place.

    * I could have gotten Medicare if I were prepared to sign away my travel rights for five years. Yes, there is a form for that. Disgraceful.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 16 2019, @02:35AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 16 2019, @02:35AM (#856141)

      So in that more than five years that you were out of the country, did you pay any Australian taxes? Did you even file a fucking tax return? Or did you just go back for cheap medical care?
      Medicare is for everyone in Australia, not some whinging OS cunt who doesn't pay his way and then wants to sponge on the system when he gets sick.