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Jordan Peterson is Releasing a ‘Free Speech’ Alternative to Patreon Called Thinkspot

posted by janrinok on Sunday June 16 2019, @08:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the thinks-pot-should-be-legal? dept.

aristarchus writes:

From reporting by The Daily Dot.

Conservative psychologist/alt-right guru Jordan Peterson officially announced that he is launching what he calls a "free speech platform" known as Thinkspot.

Peterson insists that Thinkspot will adhere to his principles of anti-censorship so strongly that the platform will only ban or remove users if it is ordered to do so by the U.S. court of law. Because there's no way that could go horribly wrong.

Peterson also mentioned that Thinkspot will have a minimum word count as opposed to a maximum. "If minimum comment length is 50 words, you're gonna have to put a little thought into it," Peterson said to the right-wing outlet NewsBusters. "Even if you're being a troll, you'll be a quasi-witty troll."

Thinkspot is being marketed as a creator-to-consumer payment processor such as Patreon while also serving as an alternative to services such as Twitter and YouTube.

Thinkspot has an intended release date of August 2019.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by sigterm on Monday June 17 2019, @12:59AM (2 children)

    by sigterm (849) on Monday June 17 2019, @12:59AM (#856423)

    >Remember, Jordan doesn't believe in "free speech" when it comes to
    >people criticizing him, as you can see in his propensity for bringing
    >defamation lawsuits.

    Bzzt. That's not how free speech works, but then I suppose you know that perfectly well already, since you've probably noticed that libel laws haven't been stricken down by the Supreme Court.

    But just in case you're actually making this argument in (ignorace but) good faith, here's the deal: Libel laws don't prevent you from saying anything, and they don't empower the government to censor speech. Instead, they empower the individual to hold a speaker to account in cases where the speech is both defamatory and not truthful (in the US, that is; in the UK, speaking the truth is not a bulletproof defence against claims of defamation).

    Example: Claiming that Dr. Jordan Peterson is an ethno-nationalist (which is what "alt-right" means), is both provably incorrect and a statement that defames Dr. Peterson's character. Such statements are not censored by the government, but Dr. Peterson is free to sue the speaker for defamation and demand restitution.

    >Nor does he tend to see free speech violations when his friends are the
    >ones doing the violating.

    Citation needed.

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  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday June 17 2019, @03:00AM (1 child)

    by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Monday June 17 2019, @03:00AM (#856464) Homepage Journal

    Instead, they empower the individual to hold a speaker to account in cases where the speech is both defamatory and not truthful (in the US, that is; in the UK, speaking the truth is not a bulletproof defence against claims of defamation).

    IIUC, in order for slander/libel to be proven in the US, the speech must be defamatory, false, malicious and having caused material harm.
    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_defamation_law [wikipedia.org]

    There are variations in the laws among the several states.

    N.B.: IANAL

    --
    No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday June 17 2019, @04:20AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 17 2019, @04:20AM (#856496) Journal

      to be proven by public officials

      FTFY. Keep in mind that Wikipedia then states:

      This decision was later extended to cover "public figures", although the standard is still considerably lower in the case of private individuals.