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posted by chromas on Thursday June 20 2019, @01:23AM   Printer-friendly
from the But-it-said-"breast" dept.

From The Verge, an article on autonomous weapons systems:

YouTube’s new policies designed to more aggressively tackle supremacist content have also led to some creators claiming their videos have been improperly removed or hidden in the process. They argue that YouTube is not distinguishing between actual hate content and videos that document hate groups for educational or journalistic purposes.

In militaries, there is a saying: "Friendly fire isn't."

YouTube announced on Wednesday that it was taking stronger measures to ban “videos alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, religion, sexual orientation or veteran status.” It was only minutes later that creators began to see channels being removed or videos pulled down — including a channel run by a history teacher, a video uploaded by the Southern Poverty Law Center, and independent journalist Ford Fischer.

Fischer is a YouTube-based reporter who covers politics, activism, and extremism. He’s shot footage at events like the Unite the Right white supremacy rally that occurred in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017, as well as gay pride parades. Some of his footage is used by documentarians and educators to study extremism and activist groups around the world, Fischer tells The Verge.

Looks like YouTube is going to demonetize aristarchus!

Previously: YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:38AM (19 children)

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:38AM (#857727)

    Good lord that's weird comment.

    The "left wing" (whatever) are people who will wait for a corporation or government to do it for them.

    What? Since when are the left in favour of corporations? I though they were all communists. Also,

    ...a corporation or government...

    So, they're just the same thing now are they?

    We seriously need a + or - 1 Weird mod on this site.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:42AM (16 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:42AM (#857729)

    Yea corporations are created by governments, they act according to rules set by governments and have access to special laws. The same people run both.

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:13AM (15 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:13AM (#857785) Journal

      Yea corporations are created by governments

      Wagging the dog. Business creates and finances a government to protect and enforce contracts. If/when a government fails to comply, all that money goes to the opposition to form a "new" government. Sometimes it happens peacefully, sometimes it doesn't.

      The same people run both.

      This is true, kind of. The government itself remains subservient to finance.

      --
      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:17AM (14 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:17AM (#857786)

        A corporation is literally a legal entity, ie something devised by the government. And I don't know what hair you are trying to split, the point is it is all one big organization.

        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:26AM (10 children)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:26AM (#857789) Journal

          it is all one big organization.

          "Corporation" is just a name. Instead let's call them financiers. They create the government through finance. There is no other way.

          --
          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:33AM (9 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:33AM (#857791)

            No it isn't just a name, wtf are you talking about? Corporations are always created by the government, by definition. Like I said, the same people are behind both most big corporations and the government, but that has nothing to with the meaning of a corporation or which comes first.

            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:45AM (8 children)

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:45AM (#857794) Journal

              The name "Corporation" was created by government. It's about branding. Financiers need a government to protect their finances, really to legitimize their theft of property. They create a government to stamp the deed so they can sell it back to the indians, or you if you make a higher bid. A government cannot exist without high finance from above. The first governments were created by pirates.

              --
              La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:42PM (7 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:42PM (#857874)

                Alright, you have no idea what a corporation is, go look it up. Big business != corporation.

                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday June 20 2019, @03:46PM (6 children)

                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday June 20 2019, @03:46PM (#857988) Journal

                  Big business != corporation

                  Never said it was. You're the one "splitting hairs" over nomenclature. Big business creates the government to "incorporate", to "legitimize" its business. It's strictly a paper thing, sealed with a kiss.

                  --
                  La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @04:04PM (5 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @04:04PM (#857998)

                    No, you are just trying to twist a simple fact (governments create corporations and define what they are) into supporting some bizarre pre-existing worldview you have.

                    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday June 20 2019, @04:47PM (4 children)

                      by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday June 20 2019, @04:47PM (#858046) Journal

                      Governments incorporate a business. But business always precedes government.

                      --
                      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:39PM (2 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:39PM (#858120)

                        And... your point is?

                        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:47PM

                          by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:47PM (#858122) Journal

                          :-) Thank you!

                          --
                          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:50PM

                          by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday June 20 2019, @06:50PM (#858125) Journal

                          Oh! So very sorry..

                          The point is that government is always subservient to its business financiers.

                          --
                          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 21 2019, @01:33PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 21 2019, @01:33PM (#858531)

                        They're both cylons. We created monsters that got away from us.

        • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Thursday June 20 2019, @01:28PM (2 children)

          by Pino P (4721) on Thursday June 20 2019, @01:28PM (#857896) Journal

          Business creates and finances a government to protect and enforce contracts.

          A corporation is literally a legal entity, ie something devised by the government.

          People who do business "create[] and finance[] a government to protect and enforce contracts." The corporation happens to be one tool "to protect and enforce contracts" designed by these people and implemented through government.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:09PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:09PM (#857927)

            I have no idea what distinction you are trying to make but surely you don't believe corporations "just happen" to be one tool used to protect and enforce contracts.

            • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Friday June 21 2019, @12:12PM

              by Pino P (4721) on Friday June 21 2019, @12:12PM (#858516) Journal

              surely you don't believe corporations "just happen" to be one tool used to protect and enforce contracts.

              I do in fact believe that. A corporation is a group of people who enter into contracts as a group. Acts of the legislature that define corporations, such as the Joint Stock Companies Act 1844 [wikipedia.org], its successors, and its counterparts in other countries, are intended to facilitate this collective contracting.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:51AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:51AM (#857734) Journal

    So, they're just the same thing now are they?

    Would you be surprised to learn they are actually the same thing at a certain level?
    'cause both of them has one thing in common: chasing power and control. Right, the ways they manifest those things and the declared purposes are different, but I argue that the people that make both the Frankenstein monsters to live, move and act in certain way are showing the same authoritarian traits.

    Even funnier (if you have a quirky sense of humour), they are declared frenemies. Wrangling over the control over you.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:54AM (#857735)

    Try this, go look up the pH of la croix... You'll find a bunch of people looking around for some authority figure (someone paid by a corporation or government) to tell them the answer, except for a little kid on YouTube who measured it for himself. Btw, we double checked him and his answer is good.

    The former type of person is now what gets called "left wing" and wants to censor everything they don't like, but (like I mentioned in that post) that's not a good term for them.