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posted by chromas on Thursday June 20 2019, @01:23AM   Printer-friendly
from the But-it-said-"breast" dept.

From The Verge, an article on autonomous weapons systems:

YouTube’s new policies designed to more aggressively tackle supremacist content have also led to some creators claiming their videos have been improperly removed or hidden in the process. They argue that YouTube is not distinguishing between actual hate content and videos that document hate groups for educational or journalistic purposes.

In militaries, there is a saying: "Friendly fire isn't."

YouTube announced on Wednesday that it was taking stronger measures to ban “videos alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, religion, sexual orientation or veteran status.” It was only minutes later that creators began to see channels being removed or videos pulled down — including a channel run by a history teacher, a video uploaded by the Southern Poverty Law Center, and independent journalist Ford Fischer.

Fischer is a YouTube-based reporter who covers politics, activism, and extremism. He’s shot footage at events like the Unite the Right white supremacy rally that occurred in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017, as well as gay pride parades. Some of his footage is used by documentarians and educators to study extremism and activist groups around the world, Fischer tells The Verge.

Looks like YouTube is going to demonetize aristarchus!

Previously: YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech


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  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday June 20 2019, @01:32PM (4 children)

    "make money uploading content"

    I guess I don't understand how, and under what circumstances, youtube pays people based on ads (is it just on-page ad views? click-throughs? both?), and is that documented anywhere?

    I use ad-blockers, so I wouldn't know whether any particular youtube content has ads displayed alongside it. If particular content is "demonetized," does youtube *still* display ads next to that content? Also, what is the policy concerning payments for ad revenue "generated" *prior to "demonetization?"

    If there's a bright line where ad revenue is being generated, and youtube pays, and once you're "demonetized", they no longer display ads alongside your content and you're not being paid, I still don't see how that's theft unless they refuse to pay monies that had *already* been generated via ad revenue.

    I'd expect that the terms and conditions are clearly defined, and likely rather one-sided, but if you know what they are up front and you agree to them, I'm still not clear on how the term "theft" applies.

    "No, not you, we're keeping the money your video/ channel has earned"

    And this is where I'm still not getting the "theft" angle. Creators voluntarily upload content with (presumably, and if its a *business*, you'd think folks would make sure they know what they're getting themselves into) a clear understanding of how things work.

    And if you can take down your content whenever you wish, it seems that you have just as much agency to terminate such an arrangement as youtube.

    I'm not defending youtube or google here. They are parasitical and their business model turns my stomach. Which is why I use ad-blockers.

    I'm curious, do you consider me to be a thief because I use ad blockers?

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  • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Friday June 21 2019, @02:59AM

    by MostCynical (2589) on Friday June 21 2019, @02:59AM (#858400) Journal

    No, you didn't agree to watch ads.

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  • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Friday June 21 2019, @10:19AM (1 child)

    by MostCynical (2589) on Friday June 21 2019, @10:19AM (#858489) Journal
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 21 2019, @01:42PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 21 2019, @01:42PM (#858533)

    Not just alongside the video. I've occasionally experience YouTube without an ad blocker. They actually interrupt the videos, like with commercials. It's intolerable!