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posted by takyon on Wednesday June 26 2019, @02:16AM   Printer-friendly
from the vape-nay dept.

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San Francisco bans e-cigarette sales

San Francisco has become the first US city to ban e-cigarette sales until their health effects are clearer. Officials on Tuesday voted to ban stores selling the vaporisers and made it illegal for online retailers to deliver to addresses in the city.

The California city is home to Juul Labs, the most popular e-cigarette producer in the US. Juul said the move would drive smokers back to cigarettes and "create a thriving black market".

San Francisco's mayor, London Breed, has 10 days to sign off the legislation, but has indicated that she would. The law would begin to be enforced seven months from that date, although there have been reports firms could mount a legal challenge.

Anti-vaping activists say firms deliberately target young people by offering flavoured products. Critics say that not only is more scientific investigation into the health impact needed, vaping can encourage young people to switch to cigarettes.

Also at CNET.


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 26 2019, @08:40AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 26 2019, @08:40AM (#860026)

    Do they really think anyone believes this is about anything other than banning the behaviors of people they dislike?

    Those e-cig people are a lot of the high salaried hipster high tech workers who fill the city coffers with tax dollars. SF doesn't dislike the people, they just want to keep the next big thing in healthcare cost inflators from being sold in their city.

    E-cig's health risks are different than cigarettes, but they are still a delivery device for dangerous and addictive chemicals. Inhaling may be an effective and efficient way of getting drugs into the body, but the long term risk to lung health is very real.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 26 2019, @12:10PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 26 2019, @12:10PM (#860057)

    No, the problem with e cigs is not lung health, in general.
    That's the problem you get with cigarettes.
    The problem is nicotine and whatever else is in the e cig juice, but at least you aren't inhaling combustion products.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 26 2019, @12:29PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 26 2019, @12:29PM (#860059)

      Just to clarify, of course e cigs aren't a health tonic for your lungs, just that the lung impact is much less than it is for cigarettes.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 27 2019, @12:07AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 27 2019, @12:07AM (#860303)

      E cig juice is easy to make. You need food grade propylene glycol [wikipedia.org] and vegetable glycerin [wikipedia.org]. See also here [blacknote.com], every vape juice has some ratio of PG to VG. Can't go wrong with 50:50 if you're not sure.

      You can buy 100 mg/ml nicotine/PG solution (saw some nicotine/VG solution also last time I was shopping) if you want nicotine (dilute into your PG/VG mix to 6 or so mg/ml). Cannabis extract is a bit more involved. These instructions for cannabis extract [vaporblog.co.uk] look good but I haven't tried yet. I'm waiting for retail "dude weed lmao" sales to open next year first so in case I screw up, I can always get more dude weed lmao.

      Then for flavoring, you can buy flavoring from the supermarket (lemon, lime, vanilla, almond, strawberry, etc) or get creative with a double boiler. Made green tea vape once with loose leaf tea in PG (not an org chem person so no idea what the ideal solvent is for that), then once cooled used a syringe with a bit of coffee filter stuffed inside to strain. It was awesome, but it was one of those vape flavors that leaves a ton of residue on coils (needed to clean coil daily instead of my usual every 4 or 5 days).