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Hard-to-kill poop parasites that lurk in swimming pools on the rise, CDC warns
Outbreaks of the gastrointestinal parasite cryptosporidium have been spurting upward since 2009, with the number of outbreaks gushing up an average of 13% each year, according to researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The germ spreads via the fecal-oral route and causes explosive, watery diarrhea that can last for up to three weeks. Most victims pick up the infection from recreational waters, such as swimming pools and water parks.
The main trouble is that crypto is extremely tolerant of chlorine and can happily stay afloat in well-treated pools for more than seven days. Thus, sick swimmers are the main source of infection—often young children who have yet to master toilet skills and also have more of a tendency to gulp pool water. An infected person can shed 100 million parasite eggs in one bout of diarrhea. Knocking back just 10 or fewer eggs in contaminated pool water can lead to an infection.
A 2013 study released by the CDC found that 58% of tested pools were positive for bacteria typically present in fecal matter.
[...] In all, the CDC recorded 444 outbreaks, involving 7,465 cases, 287 hospitalizations, and one death from the parasite. The number of cases per outbreak ranged from two to 638. However, the CDC notes that the figures likely underestimate the number of outbreaks and cases given that not every state reliably reports outbreaks and many people don't report their illnesses.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DavePolaschek on Wednesday July 03 2019, @01:12PM (34 children)
People are getting sick because other people are shitting in the swimming pool. Pretty much the story of humanity since... I was going to say the industrial revolution, but let’s face it, we’ve been a short-sighted species pretty much since we climbed out of the trees, so... forever.
(Score: 5, Informative) by PiMuNu on Wednesday July 03 2019, @01:20PM (7 children)
> we’ve been a short-sighted species pretty much since we climbed out of the trees
To be more positive, it isn't unreasonable to suggest that humanity has become steadily more long-sighted over time; to the point where we can now consider threats to humanity as a whole (asteroids, megavolcanoes, antibiotic resistance, gamma ray bursts, etc etc)
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday July 03 2019, @01:51PM (6 children)
Short sighted. Focus on this quarter's profits even if it will destroy the business in a foreseeable time frame. Outrageously high price of medications that were recently inexpensive -- yet as a species we are unable to do anything about it. Banksters that can crash the economy -- yet we cannot do anything about it. Countries with dictators -- yet nobody can do anything about it. A gigantic wealth divide.
All sorts of other unsustainable practices that are destroying ecosystems. That is short sighted.
Climate Change -- as a species we are unable to effectively do anything about it.
We have enough nuclear weapons to kill all of humanity, and all it would take is one of several mad men in power to light the fuse.
We are, as a species, short sighted. Or unable or unwilling to fix some fixable things that could threaten our entire species and all other species.
Some individuals have become more long sighted. But the ignorant vastly outnumber them. The ignorant breed like rabbits, on welfare paid by those productive enough to generate the wealth to sustain that.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @02:35PM (3 children)
Look at Lisa Su, who planned the current wave of new cpus 5 years ago.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday July 03 2019, @03:51PM (2 children)
Might be better attributed to Jim Keller.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @06:25PM (1 child)
So what happened the last 3 years to that 10 nm? Personally I think all signs point to that Intel has developed some deep institutional problems and a couple engineering geniuses won't be able to save them.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Wednesday July 03 2019, @06:37PM
That may be the case. But:
1. Semiconductor fabrication is hard. If they had outsourced it like AMD did, they would have been able to contract with GlobalFoundries, TSMC, or Samsung. GloFo fucked up and quit the race, while the other two have been able to stay at the bleeding edge.
2. No EUV. ASML has delayed EUV for years, which has made it difficult to push through onto the smaller nodes.
3. The 14nm++++++++++++++ node is comparable to the other guy's "10nm". So they are only starting to really fall behind now that they have to compete with "7nm" with their own "10nm" that is not as well optimized as their ultra-mature "14nm" and has bad yields. They are late to move to chiplet-based design which could have helped them to cope with yield issues.
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(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Wednesday July 03 2019, @05:00PM (1 child)
> Focus on this quarter's profits even if it will destroy the business in a foreseeable time frame
Someone was "long-sighted" enough to set up a system that kills such short-sighted businesses.
> destroying ecosystems.
Fair point here.
> Climate Change
There is a big investment in renewables. Both in near term (i.e. building wind farms/solar) and long term (improving efficiency/cost). Renewables are now competitive with nuclear and may be competitive with fossil fuels in the near future.
> nuclear weapons to kill all of humanity
We haven't done it yet.
> A gigantic wealth divide.
> The ignorant breed like rabbits, on welfare paid by those productive enough
?? By your logic (not mine) the gigantic wealth divide is driven by ignorance, the welfare state and rabbit sex. Not sure what that means about long term vs short term. Maybe check in the mirror.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday July 03 2019, @06:14PM
The rabbit sex part means that the less intelligent will outbreed the more intelligent while getting the more intelligent to subsidize this. That seems short sighted somehow.
Having not nuked ourselves yet is like a kid saying he hasn't spilled Coke on the carpet yet. Did you see my point about having (multiple) crazy world leaders in control of the buttons. Also in past decades we've had a few close false alarms.
I like that we're investing in renewables. And electric cars, and other things. Is it too late?
Just being pessimistically realistic.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by ikanreed on Wednesday July 03 2019, @01:26PM (20 children)
I mean, people not dying from literal shit water is a very recent invention that is still missing in a number of places in the world.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @01:34PM (18 children)
Why do you think it is rising in the US?
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday July 03 2019, @01:57PM (17 children)
They said why in the summary, it floats. It'd fall if it was denser than water. Duh.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @02:04PM (16 children)
Could it be that people are coming into the US without getting a proper health screening?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by ikanreed on Wednesday July 03 2019, @02:57PM (15 children)
You'll have to forgive my crudeness when I say that is an absolutely moronic thing to conjecture, and that you'd have to be an absolutely brainless simp to come up with it.
The deeply fucked up way a mind would have to be trained to first generate the hypothesis, utterly fail to quality check it for proposed mechanism or any sort of statistical basis, and then share it on the internet, all the while thinking it clever is beyond belief.
I know my shtick of calling racist dumbfucks racist dumbfucks is not well received by racist dumbfucks, but how many layers of believing your own bullshit you have to be on, (and uninformedness about the details of the thing you pretend to care about) is just consistently staggering to me.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @03:47PM (14 children)
My friend is trying to get his green card coming from Zimbabwe. It is taking years and he had to fly to Washington dc just to get a shot that he already had.
Other people just walk in, which pisses him off. Is he racist?
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday July 03 2019, @04:08PM (13 children)
Fuck you. My wife did the same goddamn thing, so I know the exact reason that's true: missing the formal medical records. Also, vaccination rates in mexico and central america are substantially higher than the US. You're just a racist shit.
There's no forgiveness left for you scum. You get the concentration camps you've practically begged for for years, and you still can't stop playing the victim.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @04:19PM (12 children)
Yes, it was because he didn't have a record of that shot. The point is that there is a quite thorough medical screening. Why do you think that is? Should we get rid of that?
Btw, you are deranged.
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Wednesday July 03 2019, @04:55PM (3 children)
Let’s take the next step suggested by your logic and prohibit US citizens abroad from re-entering the country if you think our medical screening isn’t good enough.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @04:57PM (2 children)
My premise was that the current medical screening for people trying to come to the US is pretty thorough. You seem to assume some other premise that is opposite of what I wrote in that post.
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Wednesday July 03 2019, @09:21PM (1 child)
Yes, that was your (or some AC’s) premise which followed another AC comment earlier in the thread:
“Could it be that people are coming into the US without getting a proper health screening?“
This suggests that the premise might be false. That was some other AC, right?
Why did I bother?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 04 2019, @12:13AM
A. So could it be?
B . Or no, that is impossible?
A or B, simple question.
(Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday July 03 2019, @08:18PM (7 children)
No, you're fucking deranged. Are you seriously arguing that the current problems in recreational pools are from poorly medical screened immigrants?
Did you seriously sit there like the deranged racist fuck you are, and spend time coming up with that spectacularly specious logic to attack immigrants? Go apply for a job at Fox News. You have the same relationship with the truth.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @08:33PM (6 children)
Am I? Sounds like something a deranged mind came up with from reading the post... good lord you people have to get off the propaganda feed. Unhook the facebook feed from your brain.
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Wednesday July 03 2019, @09:24PM (5 children)
Simple question. Poorly executed dodge.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @09:45PM (4 children)
The question was answered. In fact, my posts specifically said there seems to be a pretty a stringent health screening required for immigrants to the US. So why are the rates rising?
(Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday July 03 2019, @10:09PM (1 child)
You're a deranged racist fuck for even bringing up the medical screenings and immigrants at all. It's an offensive non-sequitur.
If you read my post above, EVERYONE, including redneck Trumpanzees, crazy neo-fascist Leftists, Libertarians, Pastafarians, etc., has just a little bit of shit on their assholes. That's something we all have in common, unless you are literally washing your asshole each time (not to be confused with wiping your mouth with a napkin).
So why bring up immigrants at all again? How does it constructively add to the conversation, at all? It doesn't, and is not relevant to anything but your need to bash on immigrants somehow. I've got the impression we would be talking about Strawberry fucking shortcake recipes, and you would interject with immigrants affecting the ingredients.
I've got a newsflash for you. In an entire water park filled with people, it's not the Fox News Republican mother fuckers that have perfectly washed and fecal free assholes, while everyone else is a "dirty" immigrant.
Go someplace else to interject your mindless hate into.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @10:25PM
Yep, deranged. Go support "science" some more in your own special way.
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:19PM (1 child)
Answer it again with a yes or no. You’re an AC. We can’t tell what posts are yours.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:28PM
The answer is obivously no from reading the original post. Just wait until the retard rage from these people turns against you because they always need a target for hatred.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @01:54PM
But, you know, it's not the same shit water that shitted water... or peed [youtube.com](How to measure HOW MUCH PEE IS IN YOUR POOL)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @05:00PM
Don't forget the role of chlorine. It kills most things (and that is the problem when those it doesn't kill survive and get stronger).
(Score: 5, Informative) by edIII on Wednesday July 03 2019, @08:10PM (3 children)
You're funny, but the scary part is that nobody is really shitting in the pool.
I was reading another article about this:
So basically, unless everyone is literally washing their assholes clean with bidets/washcloths, everyone's asses have a little poop on them. This gets mixed together into one large bowl of poop flavored soup, that we pay money to swim in (and swallow a little of).
This is why I haven't been swimming in recreational pools my entire adult life. I already knew that through a simple process of deduction. If the average person seems to have problems with skidmarks, then the average person doesn't have a really clean butt. That's not including children too. A toddler in a water park is basically a poop bomb waiting to go off while you pass it around in the water.
What I didn't know was how ineffective the mitigation efforts were against specific organisms like cryptosporidium. Family thought I was just being too squeamish, but science to the rescue :)
Recreational pools are beyond disgusting. I appreciate the Japanese custom of washing yourself thoroughly before getting into the public baths. That's about the only public bath I would ever get in.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 2) by arslan on Thursday July 04 2019, @12:42AM
Interesting... so we need a butt wash station, like a car wash station, for every public pool and have it as a mandatory gate into the pool. Sounds like a viable business model there buddy!
(Score: 2) by darkfeline on Thursday July 04 2019, @03:17AM
I mostly agree with you, but let me point out that shit is everywhere. There's shit on your hands right now. It might be a statistically insignificant amount of shit, but if you used state of the art instruments to measure it, it would show up. Hell, we grow our food in shit (generally not human shit though). There's no such thing as pure cleanliness; you have to draw the line somewhere at the amount of shit you want to tolerate, and drawing that line too low is a mental disorder (mysophobia).
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(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Friday July 05 2019, @04:40PM
I think that SN may be the only forum I’ve ever seen in which the word “skidmark” was used in a discussion of public health policy. Kudos all around!