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posted by chromas on Thursday July 04 2019, @03:41PM   Printer-friendly
from the should've-had-an-X12 dept.

Chris Siebenmann, a UNIX herder at the University of Toronto CS Lab, asserts that the death watch for the X Window System (aka X11) has probably started:

I was recently reading Christian F.K. Schaller's On the Road to Fedora Workstation 31 (via both Fedora Planet and Planet Gnome). In it, Schaller says in one section (about Gnome and their move to fully work on Wayland):

Once we are done with this we expect X.org to go into hard maintenance mode fairly quickly. The reality is that X.org is basically maintained by us and thus once we stop paying attention to it there is unlikely to be any major new releases coming out and there might even be some bitrot setting in over time. We will keep an eye on it as we will want to ensure X.org stays supportable until the end of the RHEL8 lifecycle at a minimum, but let this be a friendly notice for everyone who rely the work we do maintaining the Linux graphics stack, get onto Wayland, that is where the future is.

X11, for all its advantages, also has several incurable design flaws relating to security. However, the major distros have not yet been in any hurry to replace it. Wayland is touted as the next step in graphical interfaces. What are Soylentils thoughts on Wayland or the demise of X11?


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by hemocyanin on Thursday July 04 2019, @09:25PM

    by hemocyanin (186) on Thursday July 04 2019, @09:25PM (#863243) Journal

    For me, it isn't so much "need" as convenience. Some things are easier in a GUI and some things are harder. I've had occasion (rarely) to run GIMP over SSH -- certainly quicker and easier to get the right custom crop on a single image than using imagemagick CLI tools. By the same token, doing a mass change to an entire directory of images is way better on the CLI.

    On a frequent basis, I end up using a GUI text editor because I find those more convenient than CLI text editors when I'm dealing with more than one screen of text and especially when dealing with multiple files open at the same time. One file and relatively short though? I'll just use nano. I can, with some annoyance, use vi. I don't know emacs and never had the motivation to learn.

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