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posted by martyb on Monday July 08 2019, @11:58AM   Printer-friendly
from the I've-still-got-plenty-of-time dept.

A math equation that predicts the end of humanity:

The most mind-boggling controversy in the contemporary philosophy of science is the "doomsday argument," a claim that a mathematical formula can predict how long the human race will survive. It gives us even odds that our species will meet its end within the next 760 years.

The doomsday argument doesn't tell what's going to kill us — it just gives the date (very, very approximately).

Yet, I [William Poundstone] now believe the doomsday prediction merits serious attention — I've written my latest book about it. Start with J. Richard Gott III. He's a Princeton astrophysicist, one of several scholars who independently formulated the doomsday argument in the last decades of the 20th century. (Others are physicists Holger Bech Nielsen and Brandon Carter and philosopher John Leslie.) In 1969, Gott was a physics undergraduate fresh out of Harvard, spending the summer in Europe. At a visit to the Berlin Wall, he did a quick calculation and announced to a friend: The Berlin Wall will stand at least 2 and 2/3 more years but no more than 24 more years.

Demolition on the wall began 21 years later. This motivated Gott to write his method up. He published it in the journal Nature in 1993. There, Gott wrote of the future of humanity itself. He forecast a 95 percent chance that the human race would cease to exist within 12 to 18,000 years.

Not all Nature readers were convinced. "'There are lies, damn lies and statistics' is one of those colourful phrases that bedevil poor workaday statisticians," biostatistician Steven N. Goodman complained in a letter to Nature. "In my view, the statistical methodology of Gott ... breathes unfortunate new life into the saying."

Yet Gott and his predictions also received favorable attention in the[sic] New York Times[*] and the[sic] New Yorker[*] (where a profile of Gott was titled "How to Predict Everything"). Gott is an engaging storyteller with a Kentucky accent that's survived decades in the Ivy League. He has become a sort of scientific soothsayer, successfully predicting the runs of Broadway plays and when the Chicago White Sox would again win the World Series (they did in 2005).

Can it really be that easy to predict "everything"? It quickly became clear that 1) most scholars believe the doomsday argument is wrong, and 2) there is no consensus on why it's wrong. To this day, Gott's method, and a related one developed by Carter and Leslie, inspire a lively stream of journal articles.

You can read more about the doomsday debate on Quora

[*] The name of these publications do include the word "the" and should, therefore, be capitalized: The New York Times and The New Yorker, respectively.


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  • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:00AM (1 child)

    by acid andy (1683) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:00AM (#864771) Homepage Journal

    Now, if you park the TARDIS in the time vortex, program her to grab someone at random from the entirety of human history and they turn out to be from the early 21st century then we might have a problem (but you'll still need a few more tests to prove anything)... that's the situation the math applies to, not the one you describe.

    Yeah, I think the people proposing the model imagine a process structured in a similar way to that, picking one random birth from the entirety of human history to become your birth. Of course, that limits you to a sample size of one. You can take further samples from your own present and past but that's not much use because they're skewed then as we don't have access to any of the future birth data. We're lacking the perspective of the deity, mechanism or time lord that's allocating conscious identities to births!

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  • (Score: 2) by theluggage on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:32AM

    by theluggage (1797) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:32AM (#864917)

    Yeah, I think the people proposing the model imagine a process structured in a similar way to that,

    Its basically solipsism - not really accepting that anybody else exists in the same way that you do. If you start with the presumption that there's something fundamentally unique about the time that you live in, it's no big surprise that the end point of that reasoning is that the world will stop existing when you do.

    Or maybe not understanding that if a model leads to a paradox (the model assumed the indefinite survival of humanity - the conclusion was the impending extinction - so the founding assumption was false) then the model must be invalid.