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posted by martyb on Monday July 08 2019, @11:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the Think-of-the-Children dept.

Reps. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.) and Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) introduced legislation on Tuesday meant to halt the use of Department of Defense (DOD) computer networks by users for sharing or procuring pornographic images of children.

The End National Defense Network Abuse (END Network Abuse) was introduced in the wake of in[sic] an investigation called "Project Flicker" carried out by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. This investigation identified over 5,000 individuals, including many affiliated with DOD, who were subscribed to child porn websites.

The Pentagon's Defense Criminal Investigative Service subsequently identified hundreds of DOD-affiliated individuals as suspects involved in accessing child pornography, several of whom used government devices to view and share the images.

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/451383-house-bill-aims-to-stop-use-of-pentagon-networks-for-sharing-child

Why does this require a new law?


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by PartTimeZombie on Monday July 08 2019, @11:08PM (13 children)

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Monday July 08 2019, @11:08PM (#864746)

    I do not know. I assume Child pr0n is already illegal in the US?

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 08 2019, @11:21PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 08 2019, @11:21PM (#864750)

    A new law allows the politicians to pontificate and get attention. "Look at me! I'm against child porn. Look at me!"

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @02:55AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @02:55AM (#864831)

      epstein. it will go nowhere however

      whatever layer of society the dems are speaking to is simply not a large enough interest to gain political power

      rulers don't care, because they will retain political power regardless of elephant or donkey

  • (Score: 2) by insanumingenium on Monday July 08 2019, @11:37PM

    by insanumingenium (4824) on Monday July 08 2019, @11:37PM (#864759) Journal

    The END Network Abuse Act would require the Pentagon to enter into agreements with groups including law enforcement, child protection services, social services, and trauma-informed healthcare providers in order to cut down or halt the spread and impact of these images on DOD networks. The bill would also upgrade the training and technical expertise of the military organizations involved in investigating these types of crimes.

    Get outsiders on their network (paid I have to assume), money for training personnel and or hiring contractors (none of which is free), and no-one will speak against a witch hunt for CP.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by ikanreed on Monday July 08 2019, @11:56PM (4 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 08 2019, @11:56PM (#864768) Journal

    This is in the subset of "we must do something" venue of acting so you can be seen acting.

    There is technically change from the legal status quo in this particular law because it makes allows for audits, which you know, you can't go auditing regular citizens' computer. That's a violation of the 4th amendment. But government owned machines, whose rights could you possibly violate then?

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 08 2019, @11:57PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 08 2019, @11:57PM (#864769)

      Governments are people too.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by ikanreed on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:02AM

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:02AM (#864772) Journal

        They're made of people, and if we intruded into the private and personal effects of government employees, we'd be crossing a line. But the tools by which governance happens? That's "our" property. Rei publica.

        Like, there's no reasonable expectation of privacy when doing government business. At all. I got fucking FOIA any federal government employee's emails if I could fill out a short document explaining the public interest.

        It's the whole thing Hillary(and Bush's people, and Trump's people) were avoiding with private email servers.
         

      • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:27AM (1 child)

        by captain normal (2205) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:27AM (#864782)

        Do you mean, just like corporations?

        --
        When life isn't going right, go left.
  • (Score: 2) by NateMich on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:35AM

    by NateMich (6662) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:35AM (#864786)

    I do not know. I assume Child pr0n is already illegal in the US?

    Oh it's illegal all right, but now you have to worry about potentially breaking a law that could land you in prison, while you're breaking a law that could land you in prison.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by RS3 on Tuesday July 09 2019, @02:54AM (3 children)

    by RS3 (6367) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @02:54AM (#864829)

    Child pornography is very illegal in the US. Trouble is, many who work in government, esp. DOD and other para-military, intelligence, and law enforcement organizations, are somewhat protected from, almost immune to investigations that ordinary citizens are subjected to. They feel they're "above the law". The responsibility and power infects their psyche, they don't fear repercussions. As far as they're concerned, right and wrong are what they define it to be. This is very sad news.

    • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 09 2019, @03:49AM (1 child)

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @03:49AM (#864848)

      Oh yeah, we have this too.

      Usually it's rich people because they can afford the lawyers, but being connected helps.

      I am pretty sure another law won't change anything.

      • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:51AM

        by RS3 (6367) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:51AM (#864874)

        Sadly and cynically I think you're probably right. Well, it'll change some of the ways the games are played, but it won't change the big picture.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 14 2019, @12:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 14 2019, @12:58PM (#866880)

      Well, you have to consider that the psychological makeup of the average law enforcement officer, politician, and CP aficionado are such that the Venn diagram of them is but a single circle.