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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday July 09 2019, @07:55AM   Printer-friendly
from the electrifying-news dept.

Speculating about the next years, Fred Lambert writes that once there are good all-electric options across the car market internal combustion engines will be as good as dead.

Before 2025, there's going to be a point where there's not going to be a single car buyer in their right mind who's going to want to buy a new gasoline car. Not a single one. Because they're going to look at the market, they're going to look at what's out there, and all the different electric car models that are out there now. By that point, by 2025, there's going to be dozens and dozens of more EV models than what's available today. And attractive ones!

It's going to be hard for someone to justify buying a gas-powered car at that point, because they're going to think about the resale value of it.

I think the resale value of gasoline cars is going to drop massively in the next five years, and predicted value is going to drop even more drastically. Buying a gasoline car right now is a bad choice. Buying a gasoline car within the next five years is going to be just a financial suicide for most people.

Earlier on SN:
Every Electric Vehicle on Sale in the US for 2019 and Its Range (2019)
Australian Plan to Ban Petrol and Diesel Cars (2019)
Have We Reached Peak Car? (2018)


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  • (Score: 1) by hwertz on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:24PM (1 child)

    by hwertz (8141) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:24PM (#865057)

    You're out of your mind. The electric car buyers at present think "range anxiety" (as it's been called) is some kind of oil company backed propaganda. It is not. On my present vehicle, I can fill up in under 5 minutes and go 640 miles (admittedly a vehicle with a 16 gallon tank and 40MPG mileage skews that "miles per tank" up a bit.) In an EV, I can go like 150 miles, then stop to charge... 4 or 5 hours.. or 30 minutes to 75%, if I don't care that I'm greatly shortening the life of my batteries. I don't see a coast-to-coast charging network, or the power grid to support it, popping up in 6 years; especially in areas in the midwest and west where the stations are in places over 100 miles apart, could that EV even get from one to the next?

    City cars? I could potentially see strong EV sales in this market. They stay in town anyway.

    Hybrids? Yes. The Niro, for example, they took the (already being sold overseas) gas model, switched the engine to Atkinson cycle, stuck a 40HP electric motor in, stuck another electric motor on the A/C compressor, battery under the rear seat and a bunch of software. Seriously, that is it, it still even has the conventional 6-speed automatic.. without so much as an aero kit, they cut the fuel consumption about in half. I'm surprised the market for "mild hybrids" hasn't taken off, given how relatively easy it is to convert existing models to hybrid, and the huge mileage games you get when you do.

    I'd also go for something like the Volt -- charge it up most of the time, but it has a "range extender" engine so if you go on a longer trip you can just fuel it up along the way.

    But EV? I couldn't even drive to the state capitol and back. No thanks.

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday July 10 2019, @03:53PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday July 10 2019, @03:53PM (#865410) Journal

    you are not going to take an EV on a cross-country roadtrip unless you have a Tesla and can use the supercharger network, but the average daily commute in the US is 23 miles and most EVs can handle that now. i have two family members who drive BMW i3s to work everyday, one in rural to suburban Michigan, the other in suburban Long Island. that's the typical American's daily use case.

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