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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the R.I.P. dept.

Ross Perot, Billionaire Former Presidential Candidate, has Died at age 89:

Billionaire, philanthropist and former presidential candidate Ross Perot has died, CBS News has confirmed. He was 89.

Perot died in Texas, the state where he was born, surrounded by family.

[...] In 1992, Perot made a name for himself when he became the most successful non-major party presidential candidate in 80 years, amassing 19 percent of the popular vote, running against President George H.W. Bush and Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton.

As a boy in Texarkana, Texas, Perot delivered newspapers from the back of a pony. He earned his billions in a more modern way, however — by building Electronic Data Systems Corp., which helped other companies manage their computer networks.

Yet the most famous event in his career didn't involve sales and earnings; he financed a private commando raid in 1979 to free two EDS employees who were being held in a prison in Iran. The tale was turned into a book and a movie.

Perot first became known to Americans outside of business circles by claiming that the U.S. government left behind hundreds of American soldiers who were missing or imprisoned at the end of the Vietnam War. Perot fanned the issue at home and discussed it privately with Vietnamese officials in the 1980s, angering the Reagan administration, which was formally negotiating with Vietnam's government.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:40PM (25 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:40PM (#865069)

    ikant-think, the new face of TDS.

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by nitehawk214 on Tuesday July 09 2019, @06:48PM

    by nitehawk214 (1304) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @06:48PM (#865097)

    Your name must be "ikant-comeupwitharebuttal".

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    "Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @07:29PM (23 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @07:29PM (#865115)

    Lol, you get a fucking olive branch of sanity extended and you stick it right up your butt. #AboutRight #GaslightObstructProject #GrandOldPosers

    • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @08:12PM (22 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @08:12PM (#865129)

      Olive branch of sanity? ikanpuke is done telling everyone to die because they want immigration laws enforced?

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by ikanreed on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:01PM (21 children)

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:01PM (#865151) Journal

        If your idea of "laws being enforced" involves the extreme and inhumane punishment of children, yeah, fuck off and die.

        I mean, period. Hard line in the sand. Your death cannot do anything but benefit the world.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:52PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:52PM (#865210)

          Before anyone gets triggered further please remember the "first they came for the..." and think about when the extremists on the left finally get power and actually make "thought crimes." Cause given the current trend of conservatives using "buh buhbuh ILLEGAL" to justify their abuses you just might find liberals develop similarly hardened hearts.

          • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:22AM

            by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:22AM (#865227) Journal

            Of course they would? Power corrupts, and that's clearly a present phenomenon in the democratic party

            Every moral person has a duty to fight abuses of power. But why resort to hypotheticals when the scumfucks are doing blatantly evil shit right now?

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday July 10 2019, @01:53AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 10 2019, @01:53AM (#865258) Journal

            Before anyone gets triggered further please remember the "first they came for the..." and think about when the extremists on the left finally get power and actually make "thought crimes."

            1. Be afraid, be very afraid! Everyone wants you skin, if not today, tomorrow for sure. Adrenaline pumping fear in you veins is the way of life.
            2. Are you afraid enough? Good, then let's start by exterminating all the people that cross our border illegally (and especially their kids). Because that's what the people need to do to live in 'the home of the brave' and keep it!
            3. What, not afraid enough yet? Goto 1.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @02:12PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @02:12PM (#865379)

            I can finish that for you... "At first they came for the... immigrants. And locked them and their children up in concentration camps with little to no medical care or human rights."

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @05:26AM (16 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @05:26AM (#865291)

          No need to be a total asshole. What you call "extreme and inhumane punishment of children" is the result of our border being overrun and overwhelmed. Short of standing at the border and waving the checkered flag for every illegal who manages to sneak in, what would you propose? Are you willing to take in a couple hundred "unaccompanied minors" to help out those who are trying to do the job they were hired for? You lefties screech about how inhumane it all is, and the loudest howlers in Congress fought tooth and nail to prevent any resources being provided. Half of this country does not want to pay taxes to support the United States of Earth. Open borders will never fly outside of the perpetually outraged bleeding hearts and their hand wringing is exactly the root cause of the current flood of economic refugees and their opportunistic cousins.

          • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday July 10 2019, @01:49PM (10 children)

            by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 10 2019, @01:49PM (#865372) Journal

            No, that's the problem, there is a need to be a total asshole.

            Crimes against humanity don't stop because you sit quietly and ignore everything. The right has become a blight on humanity that needs to be fucking stopped, and literally the least you can do is make it clear to them where the fuck they're at.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @02:58PM (9 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @02:58PM (#865391)

              The right has become a blight on humanity that needs to be fucking stopped, and literally the least you can do is make it clear to them where the fuck they're at

              How many of those horrible alt right people walked off the job rather than provide beds to those poor border hoppers sleeping on floors? (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wayfair-workers-walk-job-protest-furniture-sales-migrant-detention-centers-n1021726) Every time one of you nut jobs screech about the crimes against humanity, some virtue signalling idiot, who apparently cannot comprehend the concept of irony, starts a protest that shows exactly how important the left thinks humaneness really is. It is always followed up by a progressive circle jerk of head nodding, back slapping and self congratulation.

              I watched Rashida Tlaib absolutely furious and frothing at the mouth over ICE on Face the Nation last Sunday when called out on her duplicitous deceitfulness by the host. It was pretty funny how worked up she got when even CBS could see she was lying. I thought her cognitive dissonance was going to give her a stroke before the interview was over.

              If you want to change the way illegals are treated, change the law. Don't expect those charged with upholding the law to look the other way so you can feel oh so superior about yourself. If Always Ocrazio Cortex is right and the US is running concentration camps, it's the first time in history that people are climbing fences to get in one.

              • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday July 10 2019, @03:45PM (8 children)

                by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 10 2019, @03:45PM (#865407) Journal

                You don't get it. This isn't some argument you can win through pedantry.

                You've proven you're okay with crimes against humanity, so you're trash. There's no room for polite disagreement with you. What you believe and do is unforgivable.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @03:59PM (4 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @03:59PM (#865414)

                  Ad hominem. Typical. There is no polite disagreement because you offer no reasoning except anyone who disagrees with your preconceived opinion is "trash." This is the heart of TDS.

                  • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday July 10 2019, @04:10PM (3 children)

                    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 10 2019, @04:10PM (#865415) Journal

                    "Your honor this whole trial is an ad hominem you refuse to refute my arguments about my very correct gun cleaning ettiequette and insist on focusing on my personal character"

                    Again, it doesn't matter what hypotheticals you pose, while you're defending concentration camps. There's no negotiation with that on details. Either you change or you have to literally die for their to be justice. The only options.

                    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @05:13PM (2 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @05:13PM (#865430)

                      Again, it doesn't matter what hypotheticals you pose, while you're defending concentration camps.

                      They are concentration camps in the same way the Ryker's Island or San Quentin are concentration camps. Only idiots compare Nazi extermination camps to Federal detention facilities. If you break the law, you can expect to be detained.

                      Either you change or you have to literally die for their to be justice. The only options.

                      Are you threatening me? You are beyond crazy. You want death on those who would disagree with you. Do you believe that people who come to this country, uninvited, and cross the border illegally have greater rights than someone who was born here, has done nothing illegal and wants our laws to be upheld? You would wish death on me but not ask foreigners to obey our laws. You are the poster child for TDS.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @05:34PM (1 child)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @05:34PM (#865436)

                        Idiots like people who went through such camps? Historians pointing out the similarities?

                        News flash you evil fuck, concentration camps do not require gas chambers to be concentration camps. Mass genocide is not required. Inhumane concentration camps are still inhumane.

                        You accept the excuses given with zero critical thought. I think the only solution is to put you trumptards into these camps and treat your families accordingly. That seems to be the only way you'll get a clue, first hand experience of being ripped from your families, imprisoned and brutalized.

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @06:43PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @06:43PM (#865459)

                          Idiots like people who went through such camps? Historians pointing out the similarities?

                          Citation?

                          I think the only solution is to put you trumptards into these camps and treat your families accordingly. That seems to be the only way you'll get a clue, first hand experience of being ripped from your families, imprisoned and brutalized.

                          I accept your terms. Next time I get caught sneaking across a sovereign country's border, feel free to put me in one of those US Federal detention centers until my economic asylum request can be heard.

                • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday July 10 2019, @04:20PM (2 children)

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 10 2019, @04:20PM (#865419) Journal

                  You've got every byte down pat - and it all bites ass because it's all false.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @05:48PM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @05:48PM (#865441)

                    Clueless Runaway at it again!

                    I get the feeling that even if they started gassing immigrants you idiots still would find some rationale to hand-wave it away. Yes they are "concentration camps" and yes it is inhumane. There is no need to separate families, that is just the extra ICEing on the cake of hatred you assholes have baked.

                    Keep preaching that hatred jerkoff, hell is gonna be rough for you.

                    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday July 10 2019, @06:28PM

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 10 2019, @06:28PM (#865454) Journal

                      *yawn*

                      WTF is going to gas the immigrants? Is that what you progressives have in mind if/when you win the White House again? I know you people don't like facts, but Obama deported more immigrants than Trump. Obama separated more families than Trump. Obama told us there was a crisis at the border, long before Trump got close to the White House. And, O'Crazio Cortez led the resistance to giving more money to the border crisis. The crisis fits your agenda. Rather than send ten, a hundred, or a thousand dollars to feed the children, you would rather make political capital off of those children.

                      Did someone say "evil" in a recent discussion?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @02:30PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @02:30PM (#865384)

            What I would propose is that the Commander in Chief starts using the military properly to start helping people instead of killing them. I guarantee you emergency shelters (which aren't supposed to be jail detention, BTW) are cheaper than his wall. Providing real and meaningful medical care to those inbound is far cheaper than the gulags being established now and then needing to send people to the emergency room because they were not properly assessed on coming in. In any national disaster worldwide armed forces resources are immediately prepared to mobilize and prepared to respond. What I would propose if the border emergency is truly an emergency as our President oh so lovingly designated it for his precious wall is that he could then also send FEMA there to provide humanitarian relief. What I would propose is that Trump gets the fuck out of the way of the State Department and enables them to work with the nations where all these people are coming from in order to help address their problems instead of allowing United States Capitalism to fist-fuck those countries into such situations. Make no mistake about it: The United States created this situation and actively induced it to occur.

            The loudest howlers in Congress are screaming at the, "Fuck you, we got ours!" attitude that is providing a meaningless border wall expansion, as if the refugees won't still get around the barricades by any weak spot necessary. They are saying we do indeed need a secure border, and the President is completely wrong about the way he is trying to provide it.

            Or the United States could simply stop trying to be the Empire of the World. Either solve the world's issues or stop dominating it, because the rest of the world will tire of it sooner rather than later and do something about it. We probably don't want to be around for that solution.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @03:47PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @03:47PM (#865409)

              Posse Comitatus, genius. The military can't assist in law enforcement. Don't you remember how the left stamped their feet and beat their chests when Trump wanted to send the military to the border? They can certainly stop an invasion though and it's starting to look like a fifth column invasion.

              I've got a better idea. No more granting asylum requests unless the grantee is being persecuted by his home state. Economic refugees are not asylum seekers. Summary judgement at the border followed by a bus ticket back to their shithole of origin. It's funny at how much you progressives got your panties in a wad over Trump rightfully calling out those places as shitholes, but somehow they are so bad that families can't go back there. Sounds like the definition of shithole to me.

              • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday July 10 2019, @04:21PM (2 children)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 10 2019, @04:21PM (#865420) Journal

                Defense of the border in the face of invaders is not "law enforcement". It's exactly what the military was intended for.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @06:14PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @06:14PM (#865449)

                  Off your rocker, like waaaaay off.

                  You need meds, for a military man (so you say) you are apparently beyond out of touch, budding little fascist that you are.

                  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday July 10 2019, @06:24PM

                    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 10 2019, @06:24PM (#865453) Journal

                    Maybe you've heard of Sun Tzu. The bestest and fastest and easiest way to defeat yourself is to lose the will to win. That is almost half of America today, and half or more of Europe.