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Ross Perot, Billionaire Former Presidential Candidate, has Died at age 89:
Billionaire, philanthropist and former presidential candidate Ross Perot has died, CBS News has confirmed. He was 89.
Perot died in Texas, the state where he was born, surrounded by family.
[...] In 1992, Perot made a name for himself when he became the most successful non-major party presidential candidate in 80 years, amassing 19 percent of the popular vote, running against President George H.W. Bush and Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton.
As a boy in Texarkana, Texas, Perot delivered newspapers from the back of a pony. He earned his billions in a more modern way, however — by building Electronic Data Systems Corp., which helped other companies manage their computer networks.
Yet the most famous event in his career didn't involve sales and earnings; he financed a private commando raid in 1979 to free two EDS employees who were being held in a prison in Iran. The tale was turned into a book and a movie.
Perot first became known to Americans outside of business circles by claiming that the U.S. government left behind hundreds of American soldiers who were missing or imprisoned at the end of the Vietnam War. Perot fanned the issue at home and discussed it privately with Vietnamese officials in the 1980s, angering the Reagan administration, which was formally negotiating with Vietnam's government.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by ikanreed on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:52PM (23 children)
Be that as it may, the good he'd have done in fixing the toxic death spiral of the republicans into, well, what they are now would have massively outweighed any benefit a right-leaning democrat briefly being in office could have possibly done.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @06:03PM (22 children)
We have a right-leaning life long democrat in office right now.
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Tuesday July 09 2019, @06:17PM (21 children)
If you think my problem with Trump is Trump himself being a stupid person and rude shit towards other people, and not the republican party and policymakers he's selected being irredeemably evil, you've got a dumbass view of things.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @07:05PM (20 children)
Super evil, not like the democrats who will make me pay reparations for slavery and illegals' healthcare. As an immigrant, surely this kind of stuff is all my problem and my fault.
(Score: 5, Informative) by ikanreed on Tuesday July 09 2019, @07:33PM (18 children)
It's hard to imagine how shitty you have to be to go "giving people healthcare is equally evil to" and then basically end that sentence in literally any way. Like forget "lock people in concentration camps without charge, seperating their children from their parents and making 3 year olds stand trial" that's actually happening, but literally anything.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @08:16PM (17 children)
My guess is the AC swallowed the Russian's sweaty load of BS about Seth Rich https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/russian-intel-planted-fake-report-that-seth-rich-was-killed-by-assassins-working-for-clinton [washingtonexaminer.com]
I for one am SHOCKED that just about every conservative talking point is 100% nonsense and more often than not stemming from Russia. SHOCKED I SAY! Russiagate is real folks!! I don't think the morons really thought through their naming of that one...
(Score: 3, Interesting) by ikanreed on Tuesday July 09 2019, @08:45PM (1 child)
Here's a thing that I do wish some of my erstwhile allies would internalize. The Russia media manipulation is a secondary side effect of a right wing media machine that already had a long history of occasionally creating, and more often amplifying, outright lies both for clicks and for ideological reasons, and a mainstream media that would run with any story that got enough traction and only slightly less credulity than your facebook aunt.
Russia may have leveraged that phenomenon, but the underlying problem is an engine of credulity. And trying to externalize the blame for our broken media system ignores that anyone with modest resources and a will to deceive can and do do the same. Not just geopolitical rival nations.
Russia should be a "Look at where our interactions with online misinformation have left us. Vulnerable to foreign manipulation." warning. Not a generic boogeyman to blame for misinformation existing in the first place. Sure, the Seth Rich shit is a lie, but it's a lie that could just as easily have originated at truepatriotblog.us as totally-a-real-news-site.mk.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:52PM
This is the source of your info: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sorcha_Faal [rationalwiki.org]
What a hilarious troll of the fake news and their believers.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @08:54PM (14 children)
The only reason anyone thinks that is because Julian Ssange implied it. It has nothing to do with this Russian thing. I mean whatdoesitmean.com? Have you looked at that site?
You are just another ignorant moron who only accepts evidence for what they already want to believe.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @08:59PM (12 children)
This appears to be what they refer to:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2071.htm [whatdoesitmean.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:13PM
They do have a way of tying together all the vague and BS reporting found in the US fake news into a different narrative. Like who were these guys supposedly driving around DC with automatic weapons 2 days after the Seth Rich murder that got in a shootout with the police who had been looking for them? Why were the cops looking for them to begin with? https://abcnews.go.com/US/capitol-complex-lockdown-police/story?id=40529280 [go.com]
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:17PM (8 children)
Wow. Thanks for the link to Whatdoesitmean.com [whatdoesitmean.com] it is hilarious. Surely some sort of parody site?
The first link that caught my eye was to PhiSciences [phisciences.co] which looked completely bananas and did not disappoint:
He has trademarked his name. Yes, really.
What an entertaining morning I am having.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:37PM (7 children)
Lol, this is the source that "Russia did it":
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2913.htm [whatdoesitmean.com]
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:53PM (6 children)
What, the only one?
Because Wikipedia has a whole bunch of other more, um, sane sources: here. [wikipedia.org]
I am pretty sure the FBI (for example) are not spending a lot of time investigating based soley on that nonsense:
We could pretend it didn't happen I suppose.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:58PM
What does any of the three to do with the Seth Rich murder and Julian Assange heavily implying in an interview that he was a source?
And I read some of that Russian troll indictment, they had info that makes no sense like the name of an agent who was using a certain IP address. It reeked of technical incompetence.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:02PM (4 children)
Also, read this:
http://www.kim.com/ [kim.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:20PM (3 children)
Kim Dotcom has his fans, but he's still a fat con man and attention whore.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:35PM (2 children)
And the FBI is filled with people trained to lie for a living. Who will we trust?
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:15AM (1 child)
I have a certain amount of sympathy for Kim Dotcom, but when said
he was lying. Nobody contacted him about starting a branch of the Internet Party in the United States because the Internet Party had exactly zero credibility in New Zealand, so why would anyone expect any in the US?
That just did not happen.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 11 2019, @06:38PM
He lies all the time I don't know why anyone likes him. He paid people to get high scores for FPS games so he could use the leaderboards for self promotion. He happened to get most of his fame helping the internet pirate movies so the most rabid retards defend him not knowing that he was mostly well known for being a bane on nerd culture before that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:23PM (1 child)
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2071.htm [whatdoesitmean.com]
And oh my God. Is this Mueller's source that the SVR was behind this?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/russian-intel-planted-fake-report-that-seth-rich-was-killed-by-assassins-working-for-clinton [washingtonexaminer.com]
Please tell me they have a better source than whatdoesitmean.com... I will not be able to stop laughing if that is their source.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:29PM
Yep, that seems to be the entire body of evidence that this was a botched robbery.
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-true-origins-of-the-seth-rich-conspiracy-a-yahoo-news-investigation-100000831.html [yahoo.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:57PM
Its ok, you are the only genius around and I thank you kind sir for showing me the light. I now know better than to mock the people who merely APPEAR to be idiots around here.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @07:45PM
Awww does your brain hurty? Universal healthcare would help you get your brain back on track, can't have that now can we? Needs them some useful idiots like yerself.