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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the R.I.P. dept.

Ross Perot, Billionaire Former Presidential Candidate, has Died at age 89:

Billionaire, philanthropist and former presidential candidate Ross Perot has died, CBS News has confirmed. He was 89.

Perot died in Texas, the state where he was born, surrounded by family.

[...] In 1992, Perot made a name for himself when he became the most successful non-major party presidential candidate in 80 years, amassing 19 percent of the popular vote, running against President George H.W. Bush and Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton.

As a boy in Texarkana, Texas, Perot delivered newspapers from the back of a pony. He earned his billions in a more modern way, however — by building Electronic Data Systems Corp., which helped other companies manage their computer networks.

Yet the most famous event in his career didn't involve sales and earnings; he financed a private commando raid in 1979 to free two EDS employees who were being held in a prison in Iran. The tale was turned into a book and a movie.

Perot first became known to Americans outside of business circles by claiming that the U.S. government left behind hundreds of American soldiers who were missing or imprisoned at the end of the Vietnam War. Perot fanned the issue at home and discussed it privately with Vietnamese officials in the 1980s, angering the Reagan administration, which was formally negotiating with Vietnam's government.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @08:59PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @08:59PM (#865150)

    This appears to be what they refer to:
    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2071.htm [whatdoesitmean.com]

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:13PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:13PM (#865153)

    They do have a way of tying together all the vague and BS reporting found in the US fake news into a different narrative. Like who were these guys supposedly driving around DC with automatic weapons 2 days after the Seth Rich murder that got in a shootout with the police who had been looking for them? Why were the cops looking for them to begin with? https://abcnews.go.com/US/capitol-complex-lockdown-police/story?id=40529280 [go.com]

  • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:17PM (8 children)

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:17PM (#865156)

    Wow. Thanks for the link to Whatdoesitmean.com [whatdoesitmean.com] it is hilarious. Surely some sort of parody site?

    The first link that caught my eye was to PhiSciences [phisciences.co] which looked completely bananas and did not disappoint:

    Dr. Patrick Flanagan™ invented the Neurophone in 1958. It is an electronic nervous system excitation device that transmits sound through the skin directly to the brain, for which he received U.S. Patent no.3,393,279 in 1968.

    He has trademarked his name. Yes, really.

    Phi Sciences, founded by Dr. G. Patrick Flanagan™, includes a group of doctors, scientists, and businessmen whose vision is to enhance the quality of human life through natural means. Our mission is to improve human health through innovative adoption of valid breakthroughs in science using socially responsible business practices.

    In pursuit of our mission, we aim to:

    Investigate the phenomena known as Epitaxy. Enhancing the structure of water through Crystal Energy® and Microcluster® silica so that people throughout the world can benefit from the best enhanced water.

    Commercialize the Neurophone® technology which allows the brain to “hear” directly through the nervous system without using the ears. It is now a highly effective tool for learning, relaxation, and meditation. The Neurophone helps induce whole brain coherence.

    What an entertaining morning I am having.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:37PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:37PM (#865166)

      Lol, this is the source that "Russia did it":

      [Note: The word Kremlin (fortress inside a city) as used in this report refers to Russian citadels, including in Moscow, having cathedrals wherein female Schema monks (Orthodox nuns) reside, many of whom are devoted to the mission of the Sisters of Sorcha Faal.]

      http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2913.htm [whatdoesitmean.com]

      • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:53PM (6 children)

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:53PM (#865173)

        Lol, this is the source that "Russia did it":

        What, the only one?

        Because Wikipedia has a whole bunch of other more, um, sane sources: here. [wikipedia.org]
        I am pretty sure the FBI (for example) are not spending a lot of time investigating based soley on that nonsense:

        The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) opened the Crossfire Hurricane investigation of Russian interference on July 31, 2016, including a special focus on links between Trump associates and Russian officials and suspected coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. The FBI's work was taken over in May 2017 by former FBI director Robert Mueller, who led a Special Counsel investigation until March 2019.[1] Mueller concluded that Russian interference "violated U.S. criminal law", and he indicted twenty-six Russian citizens and three Russian organizations. The investigation also led to indictments and convictions of Trump campaign officials and associated Americans, for unrelated charges. The Special Counsel's report, made public on April 18, 2019, examined numerous contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials but concluded that there was insufficient evidence to bring any conspiracy or coordination charges against Trump or his associates.

        We could pretend it didn't happen I suppose.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:58PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:58PM (#865175)

          What does any of the three to do with the Seth Rich murder and Julian Assange heavily implying in an interview that he was a source?

          And I read some of that Russian troll indictment, they had info that makes no sense like the name of an agent who was using a certain IP address. It reeked of technical incompetence.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:02PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:02PM (#865179)

          Also, read this:

          I know that Seth Rich was involved in the DNC leak.

          I know this because in late 2014 a person contacted me about helping me to start a branch of the Internet Party in the United States. He called himself Panda. I now know that Panda was Seth Rich.

          Panda advised me that he was working on voter analytics tools and other technologies that the Internet Party may find helpful.

          I communicated with Panda on a number of topics including corruption and the influence of corporate money in politics.

          I was referring to what I knew when I did an interview with Bloomberg in New Zealand in May 2015. In that interview I hinted that Julian Assange and Wikileaks would release information about Hillary Clinton in the upcoming election.

          The Rich family has reached out to me to ask that I be sensitive to their loss in my public comments. That request is entirely reasonable.

          I have consulted with my lawyers. I accept that my full statement should be provided to the authorities and I am prepared to do that so that there can be a full investigation. My lawyers will speak with the authorities regarding the proper process.

          If my evidence is required to be given in the United States I would be prepared to do so if appropriate arrangements are made. I would need a guarantee from Special Counsel Mueller, on behalf of the United States, of safe passage from New Zealand to the United States and back. In the coming days we will be communicating with the appropriate authorities to make the necessary arrangements. In the meantime, I will make no further comment.

            http://www.kim.com/ [kim.com]

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:20PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:20PM (#865186)

            Kim Dotcom has his fans, but he's still a fat con man and attention whore.

            • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:35PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:35PM (#865192)

              And the FBI is filled with people trained to lie for a living. Who will we trust?

              • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:15AM (1 child)

                by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:15AM (#865224)

                I have a certain amount of sympathy for Kim Dotcom, but when said

                I know this because in late 2014 a person contacted me about helping me to start a branch of the Internet Party in the United States. He called himself Panda. I now know that Panda was Seth Rich.

                he was lying. Nobody contacted him about starting a branch of the Internet Party in the United States because the Internet Party had exactly zero credibility in New Zealand, so why would anyone expect any in the US?

                That just did not happen.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 11 2019, @06:38PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 11 2019, @06:38PM (#865892)

                  He lies all the time I don't know why anyone likes him. He paid people to get high scores for FPS games so he could use the leaderboards for self promotion. He happened to get most of his fame helping the internet pirate movies so the most rabid retards defend him not knowing that he was mostly well known for being a bane on nerd culture before that.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:23PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:23PM (#865160)

    A somber Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today says that a top American Democratic Party staffer preparing to testify against Hillary Clinton was assassinated this past Sunday during a secret meeting in Washington D.C.

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2071.htm [whatdoesitmean.com]

    And oh my God. Is this Mueller's source that the SVR was behind this?

    The SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence service, spread a fake intelligence report about Rich on July 13, 2016, three days after he was killed walking home, a federal prosecutor told Yahoo News.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/russian-intel-planted-fake-report-that-seth-rich-was-killed-by-assassins-working-for-clinton [washingtonexaminer.com]

    Please tell me they have a better source than whatdoesitmean.com... I will not be able to stop laughing if that is their source.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:29PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:29PM (#865162)

      Yep, that seems to be the entire body of evidence that this was a botched robbery.

      Yet in a graphic example of how fake news infects the internet, those precise details popped up the same day on an obscure website, whatdoesitmean.com, that is a frequent vehicle for Russian propaganda. The website’s article, which attributed its claims to “Russian intelligence,” was the first known instance of Rich’s murder being publicly linked to a political conspiracy.

      https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-true-origins-of-the-seth-rich-conspiracy-a-yahoo-news-investigation-100000831.html [yahoo.com]