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[Ed. Note: Behind the invective and political slant in this story is a subject that I think could lead to a fruitful discussion. "The price of liberty is constant vigilance." SoylentNews is a little corner of the 'net that tries to provide a venue for open discussion. Are our days numbered or threatened? What can be done? Just keep doing what we are doing?]
France has turned into one of the worldwide threats to free speech
Just over one year ago, French President Emmanuel Macron came to the United States to import two potentially invasive species to Washington. One was a tree and the other was a crackdown on free speech. Ironically, soon after the tree was planted, officials dug it up to send it to quarantine. However, the more dangerous species was his acorn of speech controls, a proposal that resulted in rapturous applause from our clueless politicians.
While our politicians in the United States may applaud Macron like village idiots, most Americans are hardcore believers in free speech. It runs in our blood. Undeterred, however, Macron and others in Europe are moving to unilaterally impose speech controls on the internet with new legislation in France and Germany. If you believe this is a European issue, think again.
Macron and his government are attempting to unilaterally scrub out the internet of hateful thoughts. The French Parliament has moved toward a new law that would give internet companies like Facebook and Google just 24 hours to remove hateful speech from their sites or face fines of $1.4 million per violation. A final vote is expected next week. Germany passed a similar measure last year and imposed fines of $56 million.
(Score: 2, Troll) by takyon on Wednesday July 10 2019, @09:44PM (13 children)
Yes, that is a stupid takedown and it is censorship. If you don't want your photos or videos to be "deep-porned", you should avoid publishing images of yourself online. Making code marginally harder to find and install is going to do nothing to solve the "problem". I'm going to sub the story now, and we'll see how long you keep coming here.
Obviously, people should have been considering GitHub alternatives before that takedown. I'm surprised GitHub hasn't nuked all Kodi addons yet.
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday July 10 2019, @10:12PM (5 children)
Careful how you thread there, tak, what you do is called "blame the victim".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday July 10 2019, @10:25PM (4 children)
If getting fake porn made of you is all it takes to be a "victim", pretty soon everyone will be a victim.
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 10 2019, @11:00PM (1 child)
Keeping into account that taking pictures in public is something one cannot stop, you are right. I hope you'll enjoy the bodies your image will be grafted on and the activities depicted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday July 10 2019, @11:32PM
You assume that 1.) I go outside, and 2.) I'm not a bot hosted on GitLab.
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @11:28PM (1 child)
If getting robbed is all it takes to be a "victim", pretty soon everyone will be a victim.
- yup, I've been robbed before and felt victimized, yet astonishingly I'm sill glad there are laws against theft
Free Speech Hysterics are no better than "think of the kids" hysterics. With my limited knowledge of the details here I won't make a proclamation, but takyon you are nuts to make that post with a straight face.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday July 10 2019, @11:30PM
Left unwritten: algorithms could pornify all incoming images AUTOMATICALLY.
Laws are not going to be very effective here. You don't even have to share the fake porn pics. Just share the software and the source images.
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 10 2019, @10:20PM
Depending on the quality of the discussion, it will be the same for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 5, Informative) by quietus on Wednesday July 10 2019, @10:25PM (5 children)
There is principle, and there's defending a principle: if you're going to bludgeon a soylentil to death with your inescapable logic, please do it in a polite manner.
Your post was out of line -- adding "and we'll see how long you keep coming here." Not stylish, takyon. Not what we're used from you.
You might want to consider grabbing your old copy of the Good Soldier Svejk [wikipedia.org] and a decent bottle of whiskey.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by takyon on Wednesday July 10 2019, @10:35PM (4 children)
It was in reference to that. If you're about to walk away from Slashdot because commenters are opposing censorship at GitHub, you should expect a similar response here.
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 10 2019, @11:24PM (3 children)
And you want to test the resolution of that person, right?
Because everything needs to be clear cut? Or were you just jesting and whoever cannot take it is a precious snowflake?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday July 10 2019, @11:51PM (2 children)
The story is going to go out at 01:53 UTC, and everyone will engage in a thoughtful and polite discussion.
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday July 11 2019, @12:13AM
It better do.
Otherwise I might get the idea to take a trip over to voat and 'invite'** some characters there to join S/N.
You know? Just to raise the thoughtfulness level of the discourse here on S/N and make it easier for the soylenters to understand the alt-right ethos without being nagged by aristarchus.
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** yes, I know I'm free to use it, but I find "goad" to be such an unpolite term
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday July 11 2019, @01:39AM
Prophecy, or delusion?
Meanwhile, in takyon's basement lair: the pictures are already out there! [engadget.com]