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posted by martyb on Thursday July 11 2019, @01:53AM   Printer-friendly
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Github is banning copies of 'deepfakes' porn app DeepNude

GitHub is banning code from DeepNude, the app that used AI to create fake nude pictures of women. Motherboard, which first reported on DeepNude last month, confirmed that the Microsoft-owned software development platform won't allow DeepNude projects. GitHub told Motherboard that the code violated its rules against "sexually obscene content," and it's removed multiple repositories, including one that was officially run by DeepNude's creator.

DeepNude was originally a paid app that created nonconsensual nude pictures of women using technology similar to AI "deepfakes." The development team shut it down after Motherboard's report, saying that "the probability that people will misuse it is too high." However, as we noted last week, copies of the app were still accessible online — including on GitHub.

Late that week, the DeepNude team followed suit by uploading the core algorithm (but not the actual app interface) to the platform. "The reverse engineering of the app was already on GitHub. It no longer makes sense to hide the source code," wrote the team on a now-deleted page. "DeepNude uses an interesting method to solve a typical AI problem, so it could be useful for researchers and developers working in other fields such as fashion, cinema, and visual effects."

Also at The Register, Vice, and Fossbytes.

Previously: "Deep Nude" App Removed By Developers After Brouhaha

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  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday July 11 2019, @06:27AM (3 children)

    How is Github banning DeepNude because they don't want to be associated with it because it is inconvenient for them not censorship?

    It's not censorship because they're not *banning* anything. They are making an individual choice not to host specific software.

    Let's say you own a store and some supplier comes in and requests that you stock their product line. The markup on the product is excellent and you can be sure it will be a popular product. Boo-yah! Let's do this thing!

    Except the product is something, that while legal, will most certainly cause outrage and negative publicity for you and your store.

    Do you still stock the product, even though it will cause your customers and neighbors to shun you and your store? What will be your reasoning either way? If you do stock such a product, you'll make some money, but you may lose your business altogether because of the outrage, complaints and boycotts. If you don't, the supplier can still go to another store and get them to stock their product.

    But if you don't, by your logic, you're censoring aren't you? So what you're saying is that it's preferable to lose your livelihood rather than act as one of several, or many, distribution points for such a product. Is that correct?

    Github's actions don't affect anyone else's ability to host or distribute the product (in this case, the Deep Nude software), so they aren't censoring it. They're just refusing to support that particular product.

    As such, this isn't censorship. It's a private entity making a decision as to whether or not to support a particular product (in this case, code).

    If, however, Github was the *only* source for this software, you might have an argument for censorship. Even then, it's wouldn't be illegal, or necessarily unethical, for Github to do so.

    This is what Github seeks to avoid [xkcd.com] with their actions. And I can't say I blame them.

    Note that I'm all for freedom of expression. Even expression that I personally find objectionable. At the same time, you won't see me using my time, money and resources to host expression I find objectionable. Because I don't run a site/store/space for anyone's expression but my own.

    And even then that's pretty much limited to a single cat photo (RIP, Enrico, I miss you!), which is my choice. As it is Github's.

    If you don't like Github's choices in this (or others) matter, you have many options as to how you can deal with it. I suggest you consider those options.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Knowledge Troll on Thursday July 11 2019, @06:53AM (2 children)

    by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Thursday July 11 2019, @06:53AM (#865716) Homepage Journal

    Let's say you own a store and some supplier comes in and requests that you stock their product line. The markup on the product is excellent and you can be sure it will be a popular product. Boo-yah! Let's do this thing!

    Except the product is something, that while legal, will most certainly cause outrage and negative publicity for you and your store.

    If that product was a Bible, The Book of Satan, Pornography, or other forms of human expression, yes you are censoring them. It's in the definition just a little bit above in this thread.

    Github censored DeepNude forks. It's not complicated. Censorship happens. Censorship happens all the time. The only place where censorship is illegal in the United States is when the Government does it or you are committing a hate crime using it and then the hate crime is illegal not the censorship. People can censor. People do censor.

    If you don't like Github's choices in this (or others) matter, you have many options as to how you can deal with it. I suggest you consider those options.

    Dear god you need a jump to conclusions mat. I already said I understand why Github did this, I consider it a corruption of open source, I'm not going to change my behavior regarding github, and that github's shitty enterprise support is a much bigger problem than any censorship they've done. If I was going to stop using Github it would be because their enterprise support is that bad.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 12 2019, @04:52PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 12 2019, @04:52PM (#866308)

      Maybe stop playing the victim every time someone disagrees with you. Your ridiculously stubborn approach is why people are starting to just call you a nazi, etc. Personally I think you're a troll playing at being a centrist in order to create gotcha traps.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 13 2019, @08:01AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 13 2019, @08:01AM (#866526)

        Your ridiculously stubborn approach is why people are starting to just call you a nazi, etc.

        You're calling him a Nazi because Trump has amplified your mental illness.