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posted by martyb on Sunday July 14 2019, @03:09AM   Printer-friendly
from the You-pay-me-to-hold-your-money? dept.

There's a multitrillion-dollar black hole growing at the heart of the world's financial markets. Negative-yielding debt -- bonds worth less, not more, if held to maturity -- is spreading to more corners of the bond universe, destroying potential returns for investors and turning the system as we know it on its head. Now that it looks like sub-zero bonds are here to stay, there's even more hand-wringing about the effects for mom-and-pop savers, pensioners, investors, buyout firms and governments.

[...] Negative-yielding debt topped $13 trillion in June, having doubled since December, and now makes up around 25% of global debt. In Germany, 85% of the government bond market is under water. That means investors effectively pay the German government 0.2% for the privilege of buying its benchmark bonds; the government keeps 2 euros for every 1,000 euros borrowed over a period of 10 years. The U.S. is one of the few outliers, with none of its $16 trillion debt pile yielding less than zero, but across the world, strategists are warning that the problem may get worse.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-13/the-black-hole-engulfing-the-world-s-bond-markets-quicktake?srnd=premium


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 14 2019, @12:41PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 14 2019, @12:41PM (#866878)

    Heh, no. You're applying too much intelligence to the whole thing. Really.

    It's just about monitoring, not control. Control comes "outside" of the banks. It's the very reason the US government has a record of every single credit card transaction made, the same reason they have those same records for foreigners buying things through US firms/processing centres.

    Control. Who you know. What you buy. When you buy it. What you buy it with. If you are forced into an all virtual cash situation, then they can track EVERYTHING. You owe Bob $10 for lunch last week. They now know you gave Bob $10, you know Bob in some capacity. Does Bob know a terrorist? Maybe you're a terrorist too? Or maybe you're just one of those protestors, like Bob's friends are!

    It's why police want more license plate recognition, it's why they want cameras everywhere, it's why China developed gait recognition. It's all about mapping who you interact with, where you go, and by doing so, being able to determine if you're a threat to this year's plans. And if so? Legitimate methods can then be employed to harm/destroy/segregate/isolate/whatever that threat.

    On the surface, this actually isn't a bad idea. If you could legitimately determine who is going to blow up a public space, who is going to do "bad things", that'd be great. But the real issue is misuse. At every level of government, the threat of misuse is massive. Individuals going "off the map", and doing whatever they prefer. And it doesn't end there, for foreign powers hack into governmental systems ALL THE TIME, and therefore can use that same data to target/hurt/harm members of your society that are GOOD!

    Most primarily, monkeying with the election process is key. If (for example) China or Russia decide that you're the sort of candidate that will put 100% "my country first", and that this includes "hurting them a bit", then maybe you'll be out of the running BEFORE the primaries even happen! There are a multitude of ways for this to occur, all without violence.

    But anyhow. Misuse. That's the real problem of all of this, and of a cashless society.

    Not some weird "they'll take our cash!" idea.

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