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posted by martyb on Tuesday July 16 2019, @10:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the Being-a-Nazi-is-not-cheap dept.

According to The New York Times, Andrew Anglin, whereabouts unknown, could be on the hook for a bit of cash.

The publisher of a neo-Nazi website should pay more than $14 million in damages for encouraging "an online anti-Semitic harassment and intimidation campaign" against a woman in 2016, a federal magistrate judge in Montana recommended on Monday.

In his opinion, the judge, Jeremiah Lynch, also recommended that the publisher, Andrew Anglin, be made to remove all blog posts from the website, The Daily Stormer, that encouraged readers to contact the woman, Tanya Gersh, and her family.

Within months of Mr. Anglin's call for a "troll storm" against them, Ms. Gersh and her family had received more than 700 vulgar and hateful messages, many referring to the Holocaust. They temporarily fled their home.

Mr. Anglin did not appear in court, and his location is unknown. He did not respond to an email on Monday requesting comment on the lawsuit. And it was not clear how much money if any could ever be collected from him.

Nice that Andrew has gone back to where he's from, allegedly Thailand.


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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday July 17 2019, @02:26PM (3 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday July 17 2019, @02:26PM (#868000) Journal

    Thexalon, given how long we have both contributed to this community and the time we have had to get the cut of each other's jib, that insinuation is unworthy of you. So I'm going to pretend that you didn't just try to willfully misconstrue what I wrote as a justification for "murdering Jews and black people in the United States."

    You were defining fascism as people who kill others based on factors over which they have no control. My point was that by your definition Stalin and Pol Pot were also fascists, when in fact they were socialists. If you go by the numbers (as if mass murders can really be compared on a numerical basis) socialists hold the world record for mass murder, by far. So the semiotic othering you were consciously or subconsciously employing skirts objective fact in favor of partisan conceit.

    It must also be pointed out that mass murdering others based on race, creed, etc. really has nothing to do with a particular system of government else we must perforce ridiculously try to jam the Rwandan genocide into such a mold or re-cast democracy as a demonic system that was entirely in force for the whole process of destroying the Amerrican Indians.

    In short, it's not that simple. And, when we persist in purposeful, intentionally reductive thinking, it's glib.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 17 2019, @03:49PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 17 2019, @03:49PM (#868037)

    Ugh how stupid are you to be dragging that tired line out again? At least your point is about governing ideology even if it is really stupid.

    Dictatorships != socialism. The Nazis were not socialists beyond their populist label.

    Maybe don't try and shoehorn in your personal politics if you don't want to be misconstrued. Context my dear phoenix, context.

  • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday July 17 2019, @05:37PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday July 17 2019, @05:37PM (#868111) Journal

    And North Korea is a Democracy!

    Afterall, it says so right in the name: Democratic People's Republic of Korea

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Thexalon on Wednesday July 17 2019, @06:26PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday July 17 2019, @06:26PM (#868136)

    I was defining fascism as people who say proudly that they're fascists, Nazis, neo-Nazis, or alt-right (which is basically a rebranding of "fascist"). I then described some of the murders people who have espoused that ideology have committed in recent years.

    You responded by saying, in essence, "Do you know how bad the Communists of the 1940's and 1970's were?" There were only the following interpretations available:
    1. Your argument was completely irrelevant to the discussion and a red herring.
    2. Communist murders should be attributed to modern-day antifa, which makes fascist murders not all that bad by comparison. Incidentally, this is precisely the argument that the German Nazi Party used to convince the French, Brits, and Americans to tolerate them for as long as they did.

    As far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing as a morally justified mass murder. Period. End of discussion. There's no "Yes, but ...". There's no "But the other guys ...". There's no "We have to think about the big picture ...". And that's true regardless of the politics claimed by the perpetrators or the victims.

    And while it is also true that there are mass murderers who aren't fascist, every single fascist government that has ever existed committed mass murder: Franco did it. Mussolini did it. Hitler did it. Showa did it. Pinochet did it. So if you are trying to justify fascism, you are trying to justify mass murder.

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