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posted by martyb on Wednesday July 17 2019, @03:48AM   Printer-friendly
from the It-is-SO-GOOD-"they"-are-afraid-to-let-us-tell-you-about-it! dept.

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Peddlers of Medical Misinformation Are Using Social Media 'Censorship' as a Selling Point

Speech OnlineSpeech OnlineThis week, we're looking at the state of free speech on the internet, how we got here, and where we're going.  

No one has ever accused Mike Adams, the self-proclaimed Health Ranger, of being an understated guy, but recent events have taken him to new, shouty heights. After Adams' website, Natural News, had its page suspended by Facebook in June for violating the company's spam policies, Adams likened the suspension to genocide and said President Trump should use the military, if necessary, to break up tech companies. But Adams—and other peddlers of medical misinformation, including many anti-vaccine personalities—are also working hard to make their supposed muzzling by social media companies into a selling point and a profit-driver.

In an email blast on June 30, Adams accused Google of gaming search results to "to defame and attack all natural health topics, all while banning natural health websites from its search results." He added that the search engine giant "has gone all-in with Monsanto, Big Pharma, chemotherapy, pesticides, 5G, geoengineering, fluoride and every other poison you can imagine."

And then, naturally, he turned around and offered to sell his audience the supplements So Powerful That Google Is Trying to Hide Them (emphasis his):

P.S. Despite Google's malicious attacks on health and nutrition, the truth is that nutritional supplements works. For the next day or so, we've got an event running on PQQ, CoQ10 and other specialty supplements that dramatically increase your intake of cell-supporting nutrients (including brain-supporting nutrients). Check out the details here.

It is emblematic of the strange moment we've arrived at in the selling of misinformation online, particularly the medical variety. In recent months, several social media giants have announced their intention to crack down on that misinformation, including most particularly anti-vaccine content. (Pinterest made the "vaccine" hashtag literally impossible to search for since virtually every search resultshowed up anti-vax content.)

But the process has been late, slow, and inconsistent. Take Instagram, which banned some anti-vaccine hashtags in March, but left others alone. Today, some of those banned hashtags, like #vaccineskill, have made a noticeable comeback, and there are anti-vaccine accounts aplenty, including Vaccine Truth,which has 60,000 followers. Or take the lively world of fake cancer cures: theWall Street Journalrecently noted that YouTube and Facebook are still overrun with the same fake cancer treatments that have been circulating online for years. That includes black salve, a longtime faux treatment for skin cancer that in actuality just burns skin away without killing cancer growths, and the entire opus of Robert O. Young, who promotes things like juicing regimens and "alkaline infusions" to cure cancer, infusions that critics say are functionally just injections of a baking soda cocktail. Young went to prison in 2017 for practicing medicine without a license, and he was ordered to pay over $100 million in a civil lawsuit filed against him by a terminal cancer patient who'd used his treatments the following year. Yet he's back on Facebook and busily selling his products through a network of interconnected pages.

In other words, the social media companies' supposed "crackdown" has been bizarre, partial, and in some cases, not permanent. The entire muddled process has certainly complicated business for people who make a living selling misinformation. But it's also given them a recognizable new selling point, a way to claim to the audience they still very much have on these same social media platforms that their ideas simply must work, which is why Big Government and Big Pharma are trying to muzzle them.


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  • (Score: 2) by curunir_wolf on Wednesday July 17 2019, @10:41PM

    by curunir_wolf (4772) on Wednesday July 17 2019, @10:41PM (#868261)

    Can I ask where you found that 9% number?

    I have to confess to not reading the entire article. You're right, it was from the later strain, but, still 29% is lousy.

    hardly something to scoff at for being completely ineffective, especially when it's estimated that tens of thousands of people die every year due to complications from the flu. If you're a healthy (younger) adult, you might get by with something relatively mild, or you might be hospitalized, but will likely survive. If you're a senior or small child, the consequences of being around people who get the flu could be much more dire. Note again the second link above (the one I found which had something resembling your 9% claim), which also notes that the vaccine in the 2018-19 season likely prevented 40,000 to 90,000 hospitalizations this year.

    You're leaning a bit into propaganda territory, here (are you in the industry, by chance?), but I'll bite. In 2013, CDC found that the flu vaccine was only 9% effective for seniors [sfgate.com]. And you're completely ignoring all the risks. And there ARE risks. Any time you are injected with chemicals and foreign bodies there is a risk. Walking around with a lowered immune system for a couple of weeks is a well-known common one. If you think the risks are worth it, there is no reason you should not be allowed to accept them and get the shot. That does NOT mean it's okay for a tyrant to force you into taking it.

    HPV was estimated to cause 100% of the almost 260,000 deaths from cervical cancer worldwide in 2005." and also "91% of global estimated HPV-related cancer deaths are due to cervical cancer."

    More propaganda. You could have just said "Why don't you think of the children" like that horrible advertisement. You stat says NOTHING. First, boys do not get cervical cancer, why are you risking their health with this terrible vaccine? The WHO is very heavily influenced by the pharmaceutical industry, but I won't bother pointing that out, since you take what they say is gospel. But look at your quote: an "estimate" resulted in "100%". I reads like a lie.

    So, for your claim that the vaccines might NOT be "effective at ALL in preventing cervical cancer" would require that all science around cervical cancer and all links to HPV be bogus. Are you seriously claiming that?

    Are you claiming that HPV always leads to cancer, and that all cervical cancer is caused by HPV? Not even your WHO link claimed that. How effective will the vaccine be at preventing cancer? We can't know for MANY YEARS, because only very rarely does HPV actually cause cancer. Most HPV infections in young men and women are transient, lasting no more than one or two years. It is estimated that the infection will persist in only about 1% of women. Usually, the body clears the infection on its own. The vaccine only protects against a few strains.

    And, again, you're acting like there are no downsides to taking the vaccine. That is demonstrably false! People sensitive to it can become disabled for life. Quite a risk for a possibility of maybe avoiding a cancer.

    The best way to avoid cervical cancer? That has actually dramatically reduced cervical cancer death in the last 40 years? Regular PAP smears!

    Once again, if you're willing to engage in rational debate about such things and justify why the cost/benefit analysis of the HPV vaccine may not justify widespread or mandatory vaccination, I'd be willing to listen. But if you're going to argue "we need to have discussions," then you're setting a really bad example for the kind of unfiltered discourse that could be productive.

    Pretty sure you're just lying, here, because you're acting like vaccines themselves have no risks and can never harm anyone. You need to do that before it can become an actual "discussion," and not just you shouting propaganda.

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