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posted by martyb on Friday July 19 2019, @12:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the Hawaii-National-Guard dept.

With access to summit blocked, telescope operators abandon Mauna Kea summit

The directors of existing telescopes at the summit of Mauna Kea evacuated their employees Tuesday as a growing protest against the construction of TMT blocked access to the mountain.

Jessica Dempsey, the deputy director for the East Asian Observatory, said the organizations that run the observatories made a "joint decision" to withdraw all employees as a safety precaution. [...] The telescopes, Dempsey said, have millions of dollars of instrumentation that need constant maintenance. "This is a risk for us to have to step away at this point," she said. "This is not a decision we came to lightly, but want to emphasize the importance of safety for our staffs and the facilities."

Protesters at Mauna Kea welcomed the news Tuesday, with an eruption of cheers and hugs.

'Stolen lands': dozens arrested as Hawaiians protest $1.4bn telescope

Dozens of people have been arrested on Hawaii's Big Island this week after hundreds of protesters stood, lay and even chained themselves to structures in an effort to stop the construction of a billion-dollar space observatory at the summit of Hawaii's tallest mountain.

[...] [Organizer Kahoʻokahi] Kanuha and fellow protesters have vowed to continue fighting the telescope until construction is halted, and plan to continue peaceful protests. On Wednesday an estimated 1,000 demonstrators turned up at the site, with police issuing citations to 33 people.

Previously: Divisive Giant Telescope Cleared for Construction on Hawaiian Peak
Protesters Block Road in Attempt to Halt Thirty Meter Telescope Construction


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @03:12AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @03:12AM (#868810)

    Shut-up little right-wing shitfuck. It's conservatards who are the biggest threat to science.

    It's not "leftists" who try to force schools to teach "creationism" in science class. It's not "leftists" who always claim that evolution is "just a theory", or organize delibarate misinformation campaings against climate science and scientists.

    And don't get me started on moon-landing hoaxers, flat-earthers, etc. All overwhelmingly conservative.

    The only people hell-bent on dragging humanity back to the stone-age are regressive conservatards like you.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @05:07AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @05:07AM (#868845)

    But evolution is only a theory..... BOOM!
    The thing is that any discussion instantly turns into a slinging match that makes the American Chopper meme look tame.
    There have in the past been several fraud cases where the fame of discovery drove the hype wagon on evolution. (early 20th century especially)
    Everything needs to be scutinised, over and over. This is how they push quantum physics. Now if Neils Bohr's atom theory was taken as holy writ and never challenged - well. Same with all the evolution material - look at the evidence, then look again as the tools have improved. Carbon dating is not as flawless as you may have bee (mis)led to think. And that is just one test scientists rely on.
    It is almost like Evolution is the state religion now and if you say anything against it, you are excommunicado (John Wick style).

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday July 19 2019, @03:14PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 19 2019, @03:14PM (#868997) Journal

      But gravity is only a theory!

      (and a movie)

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @04:06PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @04:06PM (#869023)

      Funny how creationists like you (and let's make one thing clear: you ARE a creationist; you're not fooling anyone) always try to instill uncertainty and doubt about the scientific method by trying to sound all rational and sciency themselves, making ample use of false dichotomies and logical falacies to try to drive their point. It cracks me up even more when they try to picture science in a bad light by liking it to religious absolutism (false equivalence) when we all know full well that what's making them push their own agenda is precisely the same religious (christian, to be more precise) absolutism.

      But what sadens me is that they're doing all of this knowingly and on purpose, demonstrating the fact that they have no morals whatsoever. People with ethics don't need to be told that the delibarate use of misinformation, doubt, uncertainty, and fear to push a goal is inherently unethical, regardless of how "noble" said goal is percieved to be. After all, Al-Qaeda terrorists are also absolutely convinced that their goal is noble, and also believe that the end justifies the means, any means.

      See ? I can make use of false equivalence too. :) But is it really ? ...

      It is ironic that some christians, who claim to be the champions of morality, demonstrate by their actions that they have in fact no morals whatsoever.

    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday July 19 2019, @06:45PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Friday July 19 2019, @06:45PM (#869106) Journal

      But God is only a fiction: a boogeyman to scare kids into doing right and scam money from people... and molest children if you are so inclined.

      Are you a molester?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @03:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @03:55PM (#869018)

    It used to be that the right wing were the knuckle draggers, but damn, the radical left is giving them a real run for the title right now but for different reasons.

  • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Friday July 19 2019, @09:03PM

    by istartedi (123) on Friday July 19 2019, @09:03PM (#869164) Journal

    Whenever I see a post that starts out by calling somebody a "shitfuck", I know it's going to be insightful, well though-out, and potentially capable of bringing the opposition closer to the poster's PoV.

    That was sarcasm, in case you weren't sure. How is parent modded up? Where's his data on the moon-landing hoaxers being "overwhelmingly conservative"?

    Regardless of your position on the telescope, or politics in general; parent's type of discourse is IMHO not constructive and not to be encouraged with Internet points even if they did post AC.

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