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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday July 31 2019, @10:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the no-internet-for-you! dept.

Russia Denies OneWeb's Satellite Internet Request:

A firm that plans to launch hundreds of satellites into orbit to provide worldwide internet coverage has failed in its latest attempt to get approval in Russia.

OneWeb, whose headquarters are in the UK, was seeking to use a certain band of radio frequencies in Russia.

However, the State Commission for Radio Frequencies has denied it permission to do so.

OneWeb has been trying to get approval for its Russian operations since 2017.

The company was founded by US entrepreneur Greg Wyler. It launched its first six satellites, out of a proposed 650, into orbit in February.

In 2017, Russia's communications authority Roskomnadzor blocked OneWeb from offering services in the country.

And the Federal Security Service (FSB) said that the satellites could be used for espionage.

Of note is that OneWeb is using Russian rockets and launch sites to deploy its satellites.


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  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 31 2019, @11:41PM (7 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday July 31 2019, @11:41PM (#873785) Journal

    it is under one party rule, with most media controlled or friendly to the state, and journalists mysteriously dying.

    That's a U.S. Saudi thing... and Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Brazil... Russia is just another member of the club. Journalism is hardly safer than driving a taxi...

    FTA:
    ...satellites could be used for espionage.

    Chaaa! That's what the internet is for..

    My question is, how are they going to block the service. They can't stop satellites from flying over their territory. The company should make is easy to build black boxes and antennae, put the schematics up and stuff. If we work at it, we can make it impossible for anyone to block its use.

    Expect 100,000 to 1 million satellites in Earth orbit in the long run.

    Got more than that in space junk probably

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday August 01 2019, @12:13AM (4 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 01 2019, @12:13AM (#873790) Journal

    My question is, how are they going to block the service. They can't stop satellites from flying over their territory.

    "Tell me, Mr. Anderson, what good is a phone call when you are unable to speak?" applied to the case of sattelite.
    You can call a satellite on the designated frequency, but it won't answer while flying over Russia. Or else the Russians might just fry it - non-nukes EMP [wikipedia.org] are their invention, a parabolic mirror to make EMP directional and 1kg TNT to give it enough ooomph** is not that expensive for a determined state.

    ** that's 4MJ [wikipedia.org] in less than 1ms = 4GW of power. Even with a inverse square with the distance, a directional beam may have an intensity large enough to fry the electronics inside the satellite. If not, what's some extra kilos of TNT between friends?

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    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday August 01 2019, @12:45AM (3 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday August 01 2019, @12:45AM (#873802) Journal

      That's why you put up a swarm of the things, and keep them close to the Russian birds so they get blown up too.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday August 01 2019, @01:29AM (2 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 01 2019, @01:29AM (#873811) Journal

        and keep them close to the Russian birds

        lol. Russian birds will just load their capacitors with their PV and fry your swarm one by one in a more more energy-efficient manner, from close range.

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        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday August 01 2019, @02:52AM (1 child)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday August 01 2019, @02:52AM (#873835) Journal

          The battle will be interesting. I hope they put cameras on the things..

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          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday August 01 2019, @03:46AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 01 2019, @03:46AM (#873862) Journal

            The battle will be interesting.

            Yeap, should be sparkling. Cheers.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 01 2019, @12:55AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 01 2019, @12:55AM (#873804)

    The company should make is easy to build black boxes and antennae, put the schematics up and stuff. If we work at it, we can make it impossible for anyone to block its use.

    The company will be subject to a lawsuit that it cannot win. In addition to that, a microwave transceiver is a very complex device. Some of that complexity is in very specific parts and boards, in difficult assembly and in difficult alignment without microwave test sets. The cost will be extreme as well. A common netflix user cannot build such a thing. Some - very few - amateurs (hams) can, but any attempt to sell will be easy to trace back to them.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday August 01 2019, @01:49AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 01 2019, @01:49AM (#873815) Journal

    ...satellites could be used for espionage.

    Chaaa! That's what the internet is for..

    Disagree [youtube.com]

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