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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday August 03 2019, @01:28PM   Printer-friendly
from the fill-'er-up? dept.

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The SLS rocket may have curbed development of on-orbit refueling for a decade

Nearly a decade ago, when Congress directed NASA to build a large rocket based upon space shuttle-era technology called the Space Launch System, the agency also quietly put on the back burner its work to develop in-space refueling technology.

It has long been rumored within aerospace circles that funding for NASA's efforts to develop so-called propellant depots, and the capability to store and transfer cryogenic rocket fuels in orbit, was curbed due to the threat it posed to the SLS rocket and its prime contractor, Boeing.

After all, if smaller, cheaper rockets could launch rocket fuel and stash it in low-Earth orbit for staged missions to the Moon or beyond, why should NASA spend $2 billion a year annually to develop the SLS rocket? Why not just use that money to buy commercial launches, starting with the Delta IV Heavy and later the Falcon Heavy, and build an exploration program around existing capabilities? It would likely be quicker and cheaper.

Now, thanks to comments on Twitter by George Sowers, a physicist in the middle of this controversy, we have confirmation of sorts. In the early and mid-2010s, Sowers was leading the advanced programs group at United Launch Alliance (ULA), the rocket company co-owned by Boeing and Lockheed Martin. Propellant depots were among the technologies he was working on. Sowers is now a professor at the Colorado School of Mines.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 03 2019, @06:20PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 03 2019, @06:20PM (#875208)

    "Then-NASA Administrator Charles Bolden also said the agency could not plan its exploration plans around the Falcon Heavy and propellant depots because the SpaceX rocket was not a real rocket. "Let's be very honest again," Bolden said in a 2014 interview. "We don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle. Falcon 9 Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry."

    SpaceX privately developed the Falcon Heavy rocket for about $500 million, and it flew its first flight in February 2018. It has now flown three successful missions. NASA has spent about $14 billion on the SLS rocket and related development costs since 2011. That rocket is not expected to fly before at least mid or late 2021."

    Charles Bolden was the exact man you want on paper: masters in technical fields, high ranking decorated marine general, and of course an astronaut who commanded multiple successful missions. But he seems to have been a man that was easily manipulated by politicians. I do not think he was corrupt. He probably believed every word he said, but it made him set upon the wrong direction over and over again. The new head administrator is probably the worst choice on paper. A professional republican politician with an MBA and no scientific background whatsoever.

    But he seems to actually be getting things done and clearly is already familiar with the political games people play. This is really positive news on that front. Right now the Senate Launch System is weighing down NASA like a prisoner's ball and chain. Get rid of it and along with enthusiastic leadership and a genuine interest in human spaceflight and we could see big things happening imminently.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by takyon on Saturday August 03 2019, @06:26PM (2 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday August 03 2019, @06:26PM (#875209) Journal

    Agreed. Bridenstine could be doing more, but he seems to have planted the seed of SLS's doom by suggesting that Falcon Heavy could be used for some missions instead. It's up to SpaceX to diligently do the work on Starship on their current fast roadmap and make FH/Starship vs. SLS into an actual political issue when the time is right. FH is good but Starship is needed to truly kill and bury SLS.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Saturday August 03 2019, @07:07PM (1 child)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday August 03 2019, @07:07PM (#875220) Journal

      To expand on this idea: The vast majority of Americans haven't heard of SLS. Many more may have heard of Falcon 9 or Falcon Heavy, since launches are live streamed and the Falcon Heavy maiden flight and "Starman" in particular were heavily publicized. Although many people in the know have complained about SLS and LOP-G for years, there was no way for criticism to gain traction outside of nerdy circles. If SpaceX completes Starship around the same time SLS is/was supposed to start flying, they will be able to knock down all arguments for SLS's existence. At least with SLS vs. Falcon Heavy, it can be argued that you need SLS for the larger payloads. Expendable Starship will completely dwarf SLS's capabilities, and reusable Starship could also do so (likely similar or better payload to LEO*, and if it can refuel in-orbit, it destroys SLS everywhere beyond LEO).

      Elon Musk can do what he needs to do to attract media attention and shine a light on the pork rocket. SpaceX may also ramp up lobbying [opensecrets.org] efforts to counter the Beltway bandits.

      *Hopefully we get new payload numbers at that Starship design update event in the next couple of weeks. 150 tons to LEO became "100+ tons" last year. But there has been talk about adding more engines to Starship and Super Heavy, so it's likely to become more than 100 tons. SLS Block 1's payload to LEO has also been revised upwards, but it's still at 95 tons... expendable.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 03 2019, @09:17PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 03 2019, @09:17PM (#875254)

        isn't SLS the name of the golf club where builders of imaginary rockets and people funding it with public money play together?
        it is rumored to be fertilized with pig manure. also there is talk about expanding the golf course to a "SLS heavy" after something called a "starship" is build?

        seems "public money" has a special field surrounding it, being attracted to the biggest and deepest sink hole the fastest way possible?