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UK steps up fight after losing 'measles-free' status
The United Kingdom says it will take steps to halt the spread of misinformation about vaccines as a result of losing its "measles-free" status after the highly infectious disease was declared eliminated in the country three years ago.
Measles, which is almost entirely preventable with two doses of vaccine, is making a comeback globally. In the first half of the year, there have been almost three times as many cases as the same time last year. Cases globally are at the highest level since 2006, according to the World Health Organization.
"After a period of progress where we were once able to declare Britain measles free, we've now seen hundreds of cases of measles in the UK this year. One case of this horrible disease is too many, and I am determined to step up our efforts to tackle its spread," Prime Minister Boris Johnson said in a statement.
UK's Johnson slams 'mumbo-jumbo' about vaccines after measles rates rise
"The UK generally has a great record on fighting measles, but for the first time we're suddenly going in the wrong direction," Johnson said on a visit to a hospital in Truro, south-west England. "I'm afraid people have just been listening to that superstitious mumbo-jumbo on the internet, all that anti-vax stuff, and thinking that the MMR vaccine is a bad idea. That's wrong, please get your kids vaccinated."
See also: UK to pressure social media companies to fight anti-vax info
(Score: 3, Informative) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Tuesday August 20 2019, @03:21PM (2 children)
Yes, I think this road has been gone down before many times. About as many times as there are measles threads, because the same incorrect information keeps being posted and reposted. Granted, both sides think the other is the one posting the incorrect information. But no, the rates of complication are not anywhere near parallel especially the more serious the complication, unless one lives under the delusion that the nominally mild course of the disease means that it's a "harmless" disease. In the U.S., 1 in 5 persons with the Measles ends up being hospitalized (no, not interested in 'what used to be' although yes it was far lower). 1-3 of 1,000 will die from post-viral complications [cdc.gov]. For the vaccine, however, Less than 1 in 1,000 have convulsions, 1 in 10,000 have clotting issues (the source below says it is 1 in 30K to 40K in Europe, and less than 1 in 1,000,000 may have neurological problems [quebec.ca]. Death is hard to account for but extremely rare (as in not worth consideration and orders of magnitude below 1-3 in 1,000.)
But here's a nice source [cdc.gov] which details both the disease complications and the vaccination complications. Pretty well proves the point as far as I'm concerned.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 20 2019, @04:44PM (1 child)
Nice sources with no accountability for incorrect information or description of the methodology, etc.
Not gunna bother with you. The epidemic is coming. It is going to be very bad, count on it.
(Score: 3, Informative) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Tuesday August 20 2019, @08:31PM
Good. Thanks for conceding the entire argument to me.
As is usually the case with pseudoscience, production of facts makes spurious claims go away. Yes, these are facts based on more complete an accurate counted phenomena than anything you could produce. (Because they are the ones who collect the primary data.) Normally I wouldn't bother either, but let's put some nails in this coffin...
As to accountability, I'll just refer you to the references list of the CDC Pinkbook.
Digest those for me, then you can pick an argument.
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