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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday August 20 2019, @12:47AM   Printer-friendly
from the and-then? dept.

Submitted via IRC for AndyTheAbsurd

The proposal is part of Sanders' broader plan for police reform.

Wait, they used WOODY HARRELSON as a template? And I'm not sure why facial recognition is the focus here, when I feel that the end of providing military equipment to police forces is much more impactful a change.

Source: https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/19/20812032/bernie-sanders-facial-recognition-police-ban-surveillance-reform


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Tuesday August 20 2019, @08:40AM (9 children)

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Tuesday August 20 2019, @08:40AM (#882536) Journal

    "Yes, the police can do wiretaps, but only when they need to."

    Aren't you adorable.

    They record everything, they lie about it, and always have. Former verizon engineer who trained me for a job told me everything has been recorded permanently since Jan 1 1964.

    The government that did that is the actual government, the facade you are talking about are the clowns who are unable to arrest or imprison people like jeffrey epstein without permission from Tel Aviv, where NCR allows our checkout transactions to be processed and monitored. For now.

    Until you stop watching their news channels, you will remain completely unaware of how the world works, and none of it will make any sense at all. That this news was getting out on the chans is the reason and only reason those sites are now shutdown.

    With the keys of information I am throwing your way, you have at least some chance to catch up. My xmr and btc is posted on my homepage, thank me later.

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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 20 2019, @10:03AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 20 2019, @10:03AM (#882547)

    Don't you have an illuminati meeting to go to? Or did the lizard people cancel it for this month?

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday August 20 2019, @04:29PM (5 children)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday August 20 2019, @04:29PM (#882663) Journal

      Did you miss the whole thing with Snowden? Binney? Drake?

      Because after all the conspiracy theories have been proven, it doesn't really work anymore to dismiss people who talk about them as conspiracy theorists. At that point, they are citing facts.

      Now, shouldn't you run along to your Illuminati meeting, or did the lizard people cancel it for this month?

      --
      Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:58PM (4 children)

        by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:58PM (#883219) Journal

        Thank you for saying this.

        If I had a nickle for every time an anon appeared to call me a loon for basically stating the obvious...

        I have decided that the fav goto of people paid to crack consensus and 'handle' truth getting out on social media sites is 'thought terminating cliche + dismissive attack on sanity' of the poster. This fits the pattern, I am a many year veteran of r/conspiracy also. reddit was having to go to extreme lengths to make it look like they weren't censoring me, but they were.

        Really, I will argue and debate all day long about my claims. That is what I am here for.

        But that is clearly not what the people wiring the united states/world for absolute top down control want, so they fling turds and remind me continually that they are watching. What I like about SN is that other people can see that they are watching.

        If you want to look up two things that I know for sure are part of the real government: Dyncorp, Michael Chertoff

        But someone should really get the NCR ceo on record saying where they process transactions, he isn't returning my calls.

        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday August 21 2019, @09:32PM (3 children)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @09:32PM (#883315) Journal

          I have decided that the fav goto of people paid to crack consensus and 'handle' truth getting out on social media sites is 'thought terminating cliche + dismissive attack on sanity' of the poster. This fits the pattern, I am a many year veteran of r/conspiracy also. reddit was having to go to extreme lengths to make it look like they weren't censoring me, but they were.

          That is actually the NSA playbook. Check out the Snowden documents on JTRIG. It's a powerpoint deck that spells out what you're talking about.

          It's why I have said since, when the subject comes up, that the NSA and Illuminati (or lizard people, or Deep State, or 1%, or MIC, or whatever monicker one prefers) are playing with fire by disrupting peaceful consensus formation in our world democracies. What they'll get instead of predictable and manageable factions is utter dissolution of social order when the contradictions, corruption, and unadulterated evil they are causes everyone to lose their shit at once. It would dwarf what happened when that taxi driver in Tunisia set himself on fire and sparked the Arab Spring.

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          Washington DC delenda est.
          • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Thursday August 22 2019, @06:57AM (2 children)

            by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Thursday August 22 2019, @06:57AM (#883499) Journal

            We can be friends.

            I am writing a comment about this atomiization effect in the thread on 'women drinking more alcohol' and it's the same thing.

            From what I have seen, which has really shaken my ability to believe the constitution is real, is that it is not just online. Social nexus locations are used to manipulate society on a person to person level with a literal army of undercovers.

            Which is why I don't believe all of these people going postal are real. If you look into their backgrounds they had muckymucks egging them on, which is terrifying even to me. The mean things they have done to me could only have been done by sociopaths, so I can no longer doubt that actual u.s. government agents would spin up a fringe loony and set them loose on unsuspecting people. There are also foreign countries that are totally making bank and expanding their borders while the united states burns over this white supremacy mania, and whose agents are also operating freely in the united states.

            So while I agree that they are risking real rioting, they are practicing an evolutionary control of movements. Did you read the article about 5 prominent ferguson protestors dying mysteriously? Conspiracy theorist will be a psychological designation, maybe won't be able to have a gun, maybe will be under permanent investigation. Same for 'antisemitism', and the people deciding what that means are going to be israelis who no one should trust at this point.

            They are not concerned about a mob of a million people so long as that million people has no capable leadership and no one can trust another person, and they have everyone's facegag profile.

            Am I the only one who has seen Invasion USA with chuck norris? That plus They Live, except instead of aliens there are a bunch of people especially republicans who are on board with a completely different plan that they aren't telling us. It looks like they are making a fake insurrection they can forcibly put down and then make a list of everyone who ever supported it, and by association silence everyone who doesn't believe the official story of 9/11.

            If I were to make an educated guess. That's why I am being loud about what I have experienced, from what I have seen people like me are costing money to suppress and they are eventually going to look for a more affordable solution.

            I write about a lot of these things at my website, you might like Important Definitions or some of my meme collections. I believe you can spout off about whatever you want, but the moment you really start directly addressing the cultural hegemony of the totalitarian system, your life and livelihood are in danger. I have seen evidence of this in my life, which should scare everyone.

            • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday August 22 2019, @06:38PM (1 child)

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday August 22 2019, @06:38PM (#883756) Journal

              Social nexus locations are used to manipulate society on a person to person level with a literal army of undercovers.

              When I was active in the progressive grassroots, NYPD undercover officers infiltrated our meetings.

              Infiltration and subversion are tactics those in power use to suppress challenges to their power. Unfortunately it is still not widely understood by Americans and citizens of other countries that it is not the Left who does it to the Right, or the Right who does it to the Left, but the tiny number of power elites who do it to everyone else. Those same power elites are always in power, no matter which party "controls" the government. The exact composition of who is in the power elite might change a little over time, but the dynamic never goes away. Democracy as a form of government is only a slightly more palatable fig leaf on the naked exercise of that power.

              We have arrived at a historical moment, however, in which it is practically speaking just as possible for one of us to do to them what they have always done to us. Knowledge is power, and we all have access to that same knowledge now.

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              Washington DC delenda est.
              • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Friday August 23 2019, @10:30AM

                by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Friday August 23 2019, @10:30AM (#884022) Journal

                We can be friends.

                I recently learned about Antonio Gramsi (sp) and cultural hegemony, and it is like a giant key opened up. It is like what Gene Sharp says about all government and systems. It's not monolithic like one thing, it is like something that sits on pillars.

                In the united states, what I saw, and am seeing in europe, is that one of the biggest pillars is surveillance and undermining of the people who know things and have leadership capacity outside of their hierarchy. I agree these hieararchies exist in a continuum outside of what we can change with elections, and what has been done to me in my life, which now goes back over 20 years, exists outside of any legal code. Or if the real wingnuts are correct, in the united states there are 'executive orders' that are kept secret which essentially nullify the constitution for people who work out of underground bases. All I know is as far as I know, I had no rights. They did unlimited mean things to me, so long as no above board record could be made.

                The epstein affair however has revealed a big part of the ruling hegemony, that israeli haganuah/irgun/mossad/etc are allowed to operate above the law, and if you pay close attention all of the media channels owned by israelis like CNN, and others where it is not so clear like Hufffpo, not only ignore that Epstein worked directly with Ehud Barak, but simply brush the story under the rug as if it is just another case of white privilege like they did with the weinstein thing.

                A big problem of the tyranny in the united states is that israel is using the united states as a bottomless pit of military aid in order to invade its neighbors for more lebensraum and they have been lying to us the entire time pretending to be the victim. This idiotic alliance has also allowed people with israel first allegiance(michael chertoff, rahm emmaneul) to propagate all over the place establishing their own cultural hegemony, like you will never be an actor, writer, comedian, musician, if you are not pre-approved by israeli hasbara. And the u.s. military is using israeli encryption, and intel processors are now going to be made there, etc etc. So it's not just epstein and weinstein hiring creeps to evade prosecution for raping, it is a potentially a systemwide takeover. It seems to feed the white nationalist movement and BLM at the same time, like they want to see a civil war. It seems like they want to lock up everyone who doesn't/won't believe the official 9/11 story.

                So if you try to start a peace rally, or boycott israel for its racist apartheid bullshit, you are Day 1 facing top level militarized opposition with immense resources to immobilize whatever it is you are doing. Or if you make a news forum site like SN, guess what, advanced persistent threat takedowns at moments where the same people are trying to push a different narrative.

                It is true by typing you can do a lot, I believe I have done a lot here at SN to call attention to the threat of undercovers to all movements including software enterprises, and I feel good about that. I am also trying to boycott victoria's secret as at this moment in time, we were able to see what the muckymucks are up to, and it can't be business as usual.

                Or as I put it, I'm ok with rich and poor and cops and jewish people and being surveiled somewhat, but if you need a steady string of children disappearing into your mansions and skyscrapers and yachts, we are at an impasse.

                And that's what epstein represents, a jewish israeli agent and ehud barak used their jewish-ness as a cover to be a super creepy person and all of the american police and journalists had to shut up about it for 20 years for reasons they won't even explain to us.

                Or are we to tell the 13 year old victims that they had to be raped and turned out for national security? Are police to be given this update, if they see any kidnapped kids make sure the kidnappers have israeli passports?

                I'm still waiting for an answer, but the hasbara team is doing that thing where they pretend things that upset them don't exist.

    • (Score: 2) by Sourcery42 on Tuesday August 20 2019, @04:39PM (1 child)

      by Sourcery42 (6400) on Tuesday August 20 2019, @04:39PM (#882669)

      Shhh! You'll scare the Proles.

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday August 21 2019, @09:39PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @09:39PM (#883317) Journal

        It's the spooks who should be spooked. They like to flatter themselves that they sit at the center of all power, that they know so much more than we all here do. But they are not the bright lights, the deep thinkers and creative minds who built the systems they slavishly use. If you stop and think for a moment, that makes sense; after all, they work for the government. Nobody who is really bright and creative chooses to work for the government. At least, not for long. After all why yoke your genius and burning desire to leave a mark on the world to a bunch of simpering bureaucrats and kiss-asses who want you to fill out forms in triplicate to go to the bathroom? You wouldn't. You wouldn't at all.

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        Washington DC delenda est.