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posted by martyb on Tuesday August 20 2019, @07:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the where-is-an-Illudium-Q-36-Explosive-Space-Modulator-when-you-need-it? dept.

NASA has already begun preparations for the arrival of asteroid 99942 Apophis - dubbed the 'God of Chaos' asteroid - which will skim past the earth in 10 years. The asteroid measures 340 meters across and will pass within just 19,000 miles of Earth's surface. Apophis is one of the largest asteroids to pass so close to the Earth's surface and a collision with the planet has the potential to be devastating for all life on Earth.

[...] The asteroid is set to get closer to the earth than communication and weather satellites in orbit. Most satellites in Earth's orbit are geostationary orbit 36,000 km away (22,236 miles) from the planet.

Apophis is travelling at almost 25,000 mph meaning a slight detour from its trajectory could be catastrophic.

Apophis' size and proximity to Earth have resulted in it being categorised as a Potentially Hazardous Asteroid (PHA) and NASA is keen to learn as much from the asteroid as possible to help prevent further asteroid issues in the future.

NASA scientist are aware that as the asteroid flies by the planet in 2029, its orbit trajectory may also change thus raising fears that in the future the massive rock could collide with the planet.

[...] According to some researchers, the immense size of the rock is not a cause for concern as there is a 1 to 100,000 chance of the asteroid striking the earth.

[...] Astronomer Davide Farnocchia added: "We already know that the close encounter with Earth will change Apophis' orbit.

"But our models also show the close approach could change the way this asteroid spins and it is possible that there will be some surfaces changes, like small avalanches."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1167554/asteroid-news-hit-earth-nasa-apophis-god-of-chaos-asteroids-space-asteroid-impact

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  • (Score: 2) by Alfred on Tuesday August 20 2019, @09:19PM (19 children)

    by Alfred (4006) on Tuesday August 20 2019, @09:19PM (#882788) Journal
    There is no way any government or any government employees will be able to fix anything like this. Elon might be able to but in reality if it is gonna hit we aren't gonna stop it.

    My options are then:
    Start stockpiling MREs
    make friends with the preppers
    build a bunker
    learn to shoot
    learn to build a fire
    play more "Don't Starve" ???
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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Tuesday August 20 2019, @09:46PM (16 children)

    by edIII (791) on Tuesday August 20 2019, @09:46PM (#882808)

    It's only 340 meters across. This is something we absolutely could knock out with a few specialized nukes.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by HiThere on Tuesday August 20 2019, @11:30PM (14 children)

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 20 2019, @11:30PM (#882852) Journal

      You're making assumptions about its composition that may well not be true. And shattering it wouldn't decrease the energy of impact. But how much does it weigh? If it's mainly methane and ice, then nukes would solve the problem. If it's mainly rock, they wouldn't. If it's pebbles embedded in ices, they'd solve the problem.

      OTOH, since it's orbiting the sun in an Earth-crossing orbit, it's probably quite low on volatiles. Now a nuke exploded near it at the far end of its orbit might well make a big difference. Preferably give it a bit of velocity out of the planetary disk.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 20 2019, @11:40PM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 20 2019, @11:40PM (#882858)

        If it's ice, a nuclear *bomb* might not solve the problem but a nuclear reactor could. What kind of reactor would it take to vaporize it in 5 years--allowing 5 years for us to plan and launch the mission right now, and 5 years for the thing to work, for a total of 10 years.

        Ice or not, I suspect blowing these things up is easier than melting them. Since they don't have much gravity, we just have to impart enough energy to the chunks so that all the pieces are relatively small, and separated by an Earth diameter when they arrive. That way, maybe one Chelyabinsk hits the earth instead of a Tunguska+.

        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday August 21 2019, @12:06AM (6 children)

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday August 21 2019, @12:06AM (#882868) Journal

          Even if 99% of the chunks hit Earth, they would have more surface area and experience more friction in the atmosphere.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @12:19AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @12:19AM (#882872)

            Then they would disintegrate into radioactive dust?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @01:55AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @01:55AM (#882905)

            Even if 99% of the chunks hit Earth, they would have more surface area and experience more friction in the atmosphere. (takyon)

            The Sentry Risk Table estimates that Apophis would make atmospheric entry with 1200 megatons of kinetic energy. (wikipedia)

            That doesn't lessen the destruction that much. If it hits the ground you get tidal waves and secondary ejecta impacts, but the ground blast is localized and the actual air blast* is lost in the impact explosion.
            If you broke it up so much that all the energy was dissipated in the atmosphere you would get a radiant heat burst that would set entire continents on fire, and an air blast that would circle the planet flattening everything.

            *air blast - the damage caused by an object coming down through the atmosphere at ridiculous speeds.

            • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:28AM (2 children)

              by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:28AM (#882961) Journal

              If you broke it up so much that all the energy was dissipated in the atmosphere you would get a radiant heat burst that would set entire continents on fire, and an air blast that would circle the planet flattening everything.

              That's only 24 Tsar Bombas, and not released all in one instant, starting from the extreme upper atmosphere, and possibly spread out if there are chunks. Doesn't sound so bad unless you are unlucky.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @07:26AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @07:26AM (#883006)

                It might be the same energy as 24 tsar bombas but the destruction would be a lot worse. Nukes waste a lot of destructive potential in overkilling a small area at ground zero. A significant portion is also radiated upwards.
                The supposition was that it was broken up enough to not make it to ground. That would mean a downward directed blast over a huge area.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor [wikipedia.org] - estimated at 10 thousand tons.
                99942 Apophis is estimated at 61 million tons. If you break it up that's 6,100 simultaneous Chelyabinsk blasts.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:42PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:42PM (#883215)

                Another way of looking at it.

                It masses 61,000,000 tons. A cubic km of sea-level air masses about 1,000,000 tons.
                Assume conservation of momentum and an impact speed of 10km/s .
                For the sake of easy math lets call wind at 220 mph destructive. That's about 100m/s

                By the time Apophis has transferred all that momentum to the air 6,100 cubic kilometers of atmosphere are traveling at 100 m/s.
                It will also have been heated by the kinetic energy difference between 6.1x10E7 tons at 10km/s and 6.1x10E9 tons at 0.1 km/s which will make it worse.

      • (Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:27AM (3 children)

        by edIII (791) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:27AM (#882935)

        I just assumed that our strongest nukes, one after the other, would vaporize a target that *small*. I understand that it speed alone contributes greatly to the energy of impact, but what does that have to do with vaporization of materials?

        Is it really not possible to vaporize something 300 meters across with one of our ridiculously strong nukes? The Tsar Bomba wouldn't do it? I remember reading that in the immediate vicinity it would vaporize skyscrapers made with reinforced concrete and steel.

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        • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:04AM (2 children)

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:04AM (#882951) Journal

          Why do you think it would vaporize? The blast is quick, and while it may fragment things, would only heat the outer surface. And rate of radiative cooling is, I think, proportional to the fourth power of the temperature.

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          • (Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:32AM (1 child)

            by edIII (791) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:32AM (#882963)

            I guess the movies would make me think that. That, and 340 meters just seems small to me relative to a 100 megaton blast. I certainly don't have a handle on the physics so I believe you. I'm just also surprised.

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            • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:57PM

              by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:57PM (#883193) Journal

              Well, I'm not certain. And pulverized meteor might well burn up in the atmosphere before hitting. But I sure wouldn't depend on it being effective without an analysis of the asteroid.

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      • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Wednesday August 21 2019, @09:16AM (1 child)

        by Nuke (3162) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @09:16AM (#883034)

        shattering it wouldn't decrease the energy of impact

        Not all of the pieces would impact, in fact very few would if you hit it far enough away. Only a few of the fragments would still be going in the same direction as before.

        • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:00PM

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:00PM (#883195) Journal

          O, yes. If you hit it far enough away it would be a reasonable approach. But "far enough away" isn't near Earth. The ideal place to hit it would be at the other end of the orbit, and the ideal direction would be perpendicular to the plane of Earth's orbit.

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    • (Score: 2) by Alfred on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:11PM

      by Alfred (4006) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:11PM (#883134) Journal
      Maybe "we" could as in we have the tech but the government machine wouldn't be able to produce it fast enough is my point. If there was an asteroid that for sure would wipe out the planet that we could kill with a nuke there would be protesters complaining that the spacecraft might leak radiation around the launchpad saying we shouldn't launch it and government people to listen to them and possibly stop the launch. Nevermind the other option is death by asteroid next week.
  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 20 2019, @09:48PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 20 2019, @09:48PM (#882810)

    Only if you think you can successfully shave a yak without getting stomped.

  • (Score: 2) by legont on Wednesday August 21 2019, @12:35AM

    by legont (4179) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @12:35AM (#882878)

    The message is, stop hoarding, take loans, and spend. Spend, and party, and spend because there is no tomorrow. The economy will go way up, hence the progress, and eventually we'll find a way to defeat the rock. As per your loan, too bad.

    They are looking for Roosevelt 2.0 in the Great Depression 2.0

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