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posted by martyb on Friday August 23 2019, @01:32AM   Printer-friendly
from the summoning-thunderf00t dept.

https://www.fudzilla.com/news/49241-french-solar-road-was-a-failure

A one kilometre "solar road" project paved with photovoltaic panels in France is "too noisy, falling apart, and doesn't even collect enough solar energy".

Le Monde describes the road as "pale with its ragged joints", with "solar panels that peel off the road and the many splinters [from] that enamel resin protecting photovoltaic cells".

It's a poor sign for a project the French government invested €5 million, or $5,546,750. The noise and poor upkeep aren't the only problems facing the Wattway. Through shoddy engineering, the Wattway isn't even generating the electricity it promised to deliver...

Normandy is not historically known as a sunny area. At the time, the region's capital city of Caen only got 44 days of strong sunshine a year, and not much has changed since.

Storms have wreaked havoc with the systems, blowing circuits. But even if the weather was OK it appears the panels weren't built to capture them efficiently... Solar panels are most efficient when pointed toward the sun. Because the project needed to be a road as well as a solar generator, however, all of its solar panels are flat. So even within the limited sun of the region, the Wattway was further limiting itself.

Also: Turns out a Road Made of Solar Panels Was, in Fact, a Bad Idea


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  • (Score: 2) by MadTinfoilHatter on Friday August 23 2019, @06:31AM (5 children)

    by MadTinfoilHatter (4635) on Friday August 23 2019, @06:31AM (#883943)

    In fact, it is very difficult to think of one single positive feature of them...

    Actually it's easy to think of one. (Emphasis on "one".) They don't take away any area that could be used for something else (like farming, et.c.) This is where this whole idea had its origins. We have all this road surface that's only being used to drive vehicles along... What if we could use it for generating electricity at the same time...? But, yes other than that, I'm hard pressed to see any redeeming features for the idea. The problems they're having were entirely predictable, and given the wear and tear roads are subjected to, I'm very skeptical that they will ever be able to solve them.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 23 2019, @06:33AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 23 2019, @06:33AM (#883945)

    Sure but much of that surface is being covered with .... cars. Unless you have transparent cars that allow usable sunlight through it seems like the cars themselves will act as an obstruction.

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday August 23 2019, @09:09AM (1 child)

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday August 23 2019, @09:09AM (#884000) Journal

      Maybe you should look at roads (at times where there's no traffic jam). Under normal operation conditions, only a fraction of the road is covered with cars.

      For example, consider this image, [umweltbundesamt.de] which actually shows quite dense traffic. But still there's clearly more uncovered than covered street surface.

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      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 23 2019, @01:05PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 23 2019, @01:05PM (#884076)

        Still looks like much of the road is covered with cars.

        Traffic is just one of the many factors that reduce efficiency.

        It should also be noted that traffic tends to be heavier during the day than at night or at 2AM in the morning. During the times of least traffic there is also the least sunlight.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 23 2019, @02:48PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 23 2019, @02:48PM (#884126)

    Actually it's easy to think of one. (Emphasis on "one".) They don't take away any area that could be used for something else (like farming, et.c.) This is where this whole idea had its origins. We have all this road surface that's only being used to drive vehicles along... What if we could use it for generating electricity at the same time...?

    This argument might have merit but only after every available rooftop has solar panels on it such that building any more solar panels on rooftops is not possible. At the moment the vast majority of rooftops do not have solar panels on them.

    Building solar panels on rooftops makes so much more sense: you can angle the panels correctly, the electrical infrastructure is already installed in the building, oh, and the solar panels are not subject to having cars driving on them.

    Even then, the road space can still be used for solar power by putting panels above the vehicles, which seems to make a lot more sense than putting the vehicles above the solar panels...

  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday August 23 2019, @07:30PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Friday August 23 2019, @07:30PM (#884312)

    The thing is, there's an obvious alternative to putting solar panels in the road itself, suggested by solar roadways opponents: Build structures above the roads and put the panels on that. With an added advantage of providing shade (which reduces sun glare problems and car A/C usage) and less rainwater landing on the roads (helping with traction and reducing accident rates). Or even better, build those kinds of structures over the acres of parking lot we have in the US. Now you're even somewhat sheltered walking from your car to the entrance to the MegaSuperMallMart.

    But no, we've got to put these panels in a place where they'll be repeatedly run over and scratched up by 18-wheelers for some reason.

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