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Ankara has gone ahead with its purchase of the Russian defence system despite threats of US sanctions.
Ankara received its first supply of S-400 missiles in July, despite a warning by the United States about possible sanctions. The acquisition of the highly-advanced air defence system has led to a standoff between Turkey and its NATO allies, especially the US.
[...] The modular S-400 is seen as one of the most advanced missile systems in the world, capable of tracking several targets simultaneously and ready to be fired within minutes.
The US has repeatedly said that the Russian system is incompatible with NATO systems and is a threat to the hi-tech F-35 fighter jets, which Turkey is also planning to buy.
Washington has said Turkey will not be allowed to participate in the F-35 programme because of the Turkey-Russia deal.
The US has strongly urged Turkey to pull back from the deal - the first such move between a NATO member and Russia - warning Ankara that it will face economic sanctions under the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act if it goes ahead with the purchase, reportedly costing more than $2bn.
So far, however, Ankara has refused to give in to US pressure, insisting that choosing which defence equipment to buy is a matter of national sovereignty.
Previously: US Warns Turkey Not To Buy Russian S-400 Missile System
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday August 27 2019, @04:20PM (11 children)
That will depend on how bad we need the money.
There's a way around the sanctions, just takes some courage.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 27 2019, @04:23PM (5 children)
In the past, we would have to remove Erdogan using the CIA. Now we have to wait it out.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 27 2019, @04:53PM (4 children)
You already tried this in 2016, but failed spectacularly.
(Score: 3, Touché) by pvanhoof on Tuesday August 27 2019, @05:43PM
Which is probably also why Ankara wants Russian equipment to defend its airspace (against its 'own' fighter jets).
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 27 2019, @07:44PM (2 children)
The U.S. isn't behind *every* coup attempt dude
(Score: 4, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday August 27 2019, @09:04PM (1 child)
I love to point out the US's nasty work around the world, but in that case I'm pretty sure Erdogan was behind that particular coup.
Credit where credit is due and all that.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by tangomargarine on Wednesday August 28 2019, @02:46PM
It's also entirely predictable that Erdogan blamed the U.S. for being behind the coup.
According to Wikipedia, the last 4 or 5 coups before this one were all by the Kemalists (people in the military trying to make sure Turkey doesn't regress to an Ottoman-style Muslim state, but stays secular), but all of a sudden *this time*, when Erdogan is doing the exact same thing, it's the U.S. and a former ally guy of his who got asylum in the U.S. who are behind the coup. How convenient.
It looks like the theory is that they were already planning a coup and E was about to purge a lot of the coup leadership so they had to move up the timetable and bungled it. Then like 2 days later he's got the complete list for the purge. Nobody's that efficient unless it was planned in advance.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 5, Touché) by richtopia on Tuesday August 27 2019, @04:53PM (1 child)
Given the history of the F-35 program, providing Turkey an out from the previously agreed upon purchase may be an incentive for more S-400s.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday August 27 2019, @05:33PM
Yes, it would be upon them to buy the better product
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Tuesday August 27 2019, @11:32PM (2 children)
Fighter-bombers are for use on 3rd world and developing countries, mostly on civilian populations. At least that's what's been going on lately. Attacking civilians is the way to win wars. Has been since the Allies changed from attacking German factories to cities.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 28 2019, @02:05PM
Once nation states happened, it has always been that way. The loss of ships and planes does not remove the will to resist, it is the killing of your baby and Aunt Sally, in sufficient quantities, that does.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 28 2019, @02:55PM
Well the Germans started the whole aerial bombing of cities thing in WW2.
London Blitz?