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posted by LaminatorX on Monday August 11 2014, @02:03PM   Printer-friendly
from the politicians-wasting-money-to-show-they're-tough-dept dept.

AlterNet reports

The state is using its already-tight welfare budget to administer the expensive tests.

Tennessee is all set to deny welfare benefits to poor residents based solely on the fact that they'd used drugs. In July they rolled out a program to drug test welfare applicants, which would create even worse health issues for already-struggling addicts. However, the first month's tests proved that most welfare applicants weren't using drugs in the first place: of more than 800 applicants, the state caught only one person using drugs.

The testing program was popularised and enacted, no doubt, in response to the stereotype that poor people who use government assistance programs tend to be drug users. But it appears that the stereotype is baseless. Just 12 people in Utah's similar drug testing program came up positive for drugs in an entire year of testing, and just two percent of applicants failed Florida's 2011 welfare drug tests.

In Tennessee the drug testing program applies to the state's Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program. Applicants, mainly struggling parents, are now required to answer three questions asking about potential drug use. Any "yes" answers automatically require applicants to undergo urine testing for drugs. Any demonstrated drug use disqualifies them for benefits.

As Think Progress reported on Tennessee's results:

In the month since it began, six people submitted to a drug test and just one tested positive out of the 812 people who applied. Four were turned down for benefits because they refused to participate in drug screening. That means a positive rate of 0.12 percent for those who took part in the screening. That compares to the 8 percent of state residents generally who use illegal drugs.

The state is using a portion of the already-tight welfare budget to administer the expensive drug tests, which are quickly proving to be a statistically worthless investment. As Think Progress reported, "Utah spent more than $30,000 in the year that turned up just 12 drug users. The purported savings in Florida's program will be negligible after administrative costs and reimbursements for the drug tests are taken into account. The $1.5 million price tag with just $229,000 in savings for a proposed program in Virginia prompted lawmakers to reject it."

Despite the fact that drug testing the needy repeatedly proves unnecessary, it's becoming a trend. Eleven states already have new drug testing programs in their welfare offices, and others are looking to add them.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by broken on Tuesday August 12 2014, @12:01AM

    by broken (4018) on Tuesday August 12 2014, @12:01AM (#80279) Journal
    Seriously, is the plan to convert this site into a forum for political discussion? Because that's all this article is. It's not even a mainstream issue that will have any effect on this site's viewers. I'm not saying it's not interesting or that it shouldn't be discussed, just why is it here?
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 12 2014, @04:31AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 12 2014, @04:31AM (#80337)

    Because being anti-drug-war is a relatively common trait among geeks so examples of drug-war stupidity are newsworthy to the community. Soylent news is people.

    • (Score: 2) by broken on Tuesday August 12 2014, @08:57PM

      by broken (4018) on Tuesday August 12 2014, @08:57PM (#80598) Journal
      This has nothing to do with the war on drugs. This is the war on government assistance to the needy. I don't think even the promoters of these laws expect them to have any significant effect on drug use. Are the details of how government assistance programs are run also newsworthy to this community? Are we going to start to post all headline news topics since they are of interest to most people? Or is this site going to try to maintain some sort of focus?
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 12 2014, @09:32PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 12 2014, @09:32PM (#80610)

        > This has nothing to do with the war on drugs.

        Sez you. Like so many geeks you've got that myopic black and white thinking going on it.
        Like nearly everything in life, it is about more than one thing simultaneously.

        • (Score: 2) by broken on Wednesday August 13 2014, @01:08AM

          by broken (4018) on Wednesday August 13 2014, @01:08AM (#80673) Journal

          Like so many geeks you've got that myopic black and white thinking going on it.

          Please cease with the ad hominems. I have no "black and white thinking going on". I explained why this is not part of the drug war: The purpose of these rules is not to reduce illegal drug use. Can you at least try to refute that? Since you seem a little slow, let me give it to you step by step:

          1. The "War on Drugs" is the attempt by the government to stop people from illegally using drugs.
          2. These policies were not designed to cause any significant reduction of illegal drug use.
          3. These policies were not expected, as a side effect, to cause any significant reduction of illegal drug use.
          4. Therefore, these policies can not be considered a part of the "War on Drugs".
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 14 2014, @03:01AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 14 2014, @03:01AM (#81068)

            > The purpose of these rules is not to reduce illegal drug use.

            Of course it is - the reasoning is to make people choose between food and drugs with the goal being to make them choose food.

            Just because you don't believe that's the goal does not make it untrue. So yeah, you are black-and-whiting it. Not an ad-hominem, it's an accurate description of your myopia. Just because you are too myopic to see it doesn't make it any less factual

            • (Score: 2) by broken on Thursday August 14 2014, @08:53AM

              by broken (4018) on Thursday August 14 2014, @08:53AM (#81149) Journal

              Just because you don't believe that's the goal does not make it untrue.

              Just because you do believe that's the goal does not make it true.

              And again your post is empty of any argument. You find a tiny sliver of a possibility that some tiny fraction of people will reduce their drug use and your black and white thinking leads you to make this a part of the war on drugs.

              I could easily present more arguments supporting my position, but feel I would just be wasting my time. You're so sure of yourself despite your reasoning being extremely flimsy that I think you are taking an emotional stance and not a rational one.