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posted by janrinok on Friday August 30 2019, @06:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the right-to-speak-but-not-to-be-heard dept.

[Seconding-Ed note: This story is likely to be contentious. In the interests of helping set the tone, I would like to start off by quoting H.L. Mencken:

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.

Further, this quote which has appeared in various phrasings and attributions:

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

To mind's eye, I must be willing to accept against my own words and actions any that I would wish to see imposed upon another. --martyb]

YouTube Restores Far-Right Channels After Appeal

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

The channels of two prominent far-right YouTubers have been re-instated after the video-sharing site said it made a mistake in removing them. Initially, YouTube gave no reason for changing its decision and just said it had made a "wrong call". Later, it said that while many people found the channels "deeply offensive", they had not broken its rules. The decision came days after YouTube's chief executive said YouTube had to be open to hosting "controversial" ideas.

YouTube removed several channels and accounts this week, claiming they had broken its hate speech policies. Among them was a channel run by white nationalist Martin Sellner and an anonymous British YouTuber known as The Iconoclast. Mr Sellner was reportedly in contact with the man who allegedly carried out the Christchurch mosque shootings in March this year that killed 51 people. Austrian police are investigating his links to the attack. He denies any involvement in the shooting.

Both men protested about the closure of their YouTube channels on social media. They shared information sent to them from YouTube, which said they had "repeatedly" broken its guidelines. On Thursday, YouTube reversed its decision and reinstated the two channels. Several other far-right channels that YouTube banned this week remain unavailable.

An explanation for the change of heart came on Friday. Farshad Shadloo, YouTube's global product policy communications lead, said that after a "thorough review" it had decided that the channels had not broken its rules. "We realise that many may find the viewpoints expressed in these channels deeply offensive," he said. Mr Shadloo added that YouTube had recently updated the way it handled "hateful content".

Earlier this week YouTube boss Susan Wojcicki wrote in a letter to video-makers that YouTube must remain an "open platform". She said the desire to welcome all kinds of views had to be balanced against a "responsibility to protect the community".

"A commitment to openness is not easy. It sometimes means leaving up content that is outside the mainstream, controversial or even offensive," she said. "Hearing a broad range of perspectives ultimately makes us a stronger and more informed society," she claimed.

'I am Talking Directly to You': US Attorney Delivers Powerful Rebuke to White Nationalists

ABC News:

The U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Ohio on Thursday announced new federal charges against a self-avowed white nationalist accused of threatening to commit an attack on a local Jewish community center. James Reardon, who attended the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, was arrested last week after authorities said he posted the threat on Instagram. U.S. Attorney Justin Herdman said Reardon has now been charged with one count of making threats as authorities continue their investigation into Reardon and whether he my have any accomplices.

Of course, not so much that, but what Herdman said after that.

"I am talking directly to you," Herdman said at a news conference announcing the charges. "The Constitution protects your right to speak, your right to think, and your right to believe. If you want to waste the blessings of liberty by going down a path of hatred and failed ideologies, that is your choice."

Herdman continued, evoking the sacrifices made by U.S. service members in World War II against Nazism, as well as those who marched for civil rights throughout U.S. history.

"Thousands and thousands of young Americans already voted with their lives to ensure that this same message of intolerance, death, and destruction would not prevail - you can count their ballots by visiting any American cemetery in North Africa, Italy, France, or Belgium and tallying the white headstones," Herdman said. "You can also recite the many names of civil rights advocates who bled and died in opposing supporters of those same ideologies of hatred. Their voices may be distant, but they can still be heard."

"The Constitution may give you a voice, but it doesn't guarantee you a receptive audience," Herdman added.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Friday August 30 2019, @07:01PM (7 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday August 30 2019, @07:01PM (#887873)

    Even though this type of WN is in practice in isolated pockets of the United States, it is a counter-culture, at odds with the Constitution and basic principles of the nation. Y'all tried secession once, maybe it's time to just pack up and move to Australia, set yerselfs up in a commune or somethin'.

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  • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 30 2019, @07:06PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 30 2019, @07:06PM (#887875)

    That's pretty funny. The supreme court has decided time and again against your viewpoint.
    Really, it doesn't change anything. These are our rights, we're justified in pursuing them and any attempts at hindering their practice is genocide.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Friday August 30 2019, @07:51PM (2 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday August 30 2019, @07:51PM (#887902)

      If y'all kint keep yer women from breedin' with the darkies, that's not genocide, that's just inadequate performance on the part of yer men.

      As for the Supreme Court - I'm pretty sure after that woman refused to give up her seat on the bus, it's been pretty much downhill for WNs ever since.

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      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 30 2019, @08:11PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 30 2019, @08:11PM (#887909)

        As for the Supreme Court - I'm pretty sure after that woman refused to give up her seat on the bus, it's been pretty much downhill for WNs ever since.

        Downhill? Really? All I've been hearing online and on the news for the past three years is how we elected one to the most powerful office in the world.

        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday August 30 2019, @09:30PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday August 30 2019, @09:30PM (#887929)

          Argument by ignorance...? how many WN favorable decisions have come out of the Supreme Court since the Trumpinator was born (~1950)?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 30 2019, @07:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 30 2019, @07:34PM (#887892)

    You should check out the comments on Ars. They have stage 5 TDS there.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 31 2019, @05:33PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 31 2019, @05:33PM (#888267)

    "all men are created equal" meant "white men", not "human males". that's why people had to add stuff later. if you think the first US civil war was about the goodly people of the north fighting the haters in the south, you are too brainwashed to talk to.

    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday August 31 2019, @05:48PM

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 31 2019, @05:48PM (#888270) Journal

      "all men are created equal" meant "white men", not "human males".

      What a load of rubbish. If I had any mod points left I would mod you as flamebait. All men are created equal does not only apply to the USA.