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posted by janrinok on Friday August 30 2019, @06:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the right-to-speak-but-not-to-be-heard dept.

[Seconding-Ed note: This story is likely to be contentious. In the interests of helping set the tone, I would like to start off by quoting H.L. Mencken:

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.

Further, this quote which has appeared in various phrasings and attributions:

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

To mind's eye, I must be willing to accept against my own words and actions any that I would wish to see imposed upon another. --martyb]

YouTube Restores Far-Right Channels After Appeal

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

The channels of two prominent far-right YouTubers have been re-instated after the video-sharing site said it made a mistake in removing them. Initially, YouTube gave no reason for changing its decision and just said it had made a "wrong call". Later, it said that while many people found the channels "deeply offensive", they had not broken its rules. The decision came days after YouTube's chief executive said YouTube had to be open to hosting "controversial" ideas.

YouTube removed several channels and accounts this week, claiming they had broken its hate speech policies. Among them was a channel run by white nationalist Martin Sellner and an anonymous British YouTuber known as The Iconoclast. Mr Sellner was reportedly in contact with the man who allegedly carried out the Christchurch mosque shootings in March this year that killed 51 people. Austrian police are investigating his links to the attack. He denies any involvement in the shooting.

Both men protested about the closure of their YouTube channels on social media. They shared information sent to them from YouTube, which said they had "repeatedly" broken its guidelines. On Thursday, YouTube reversed its decision and reinstated the two channels. Several other far-right channels that YouTube banned this week remain unavailable.

An explanation for the change of heart came on Friday. Farshad Shadloo, YouTube's global product policy communications lead, said that after a "thorough review" it had decided that the channels had not broken its rules. "We realise that many may find the viewpoints expressed in these channels deeply offensive," he said. Mr Shadloo added that YouTube had recently updated the way it handled "hateful content".

Earlier this week YouTube boss Susan Wojcicki wrote in a letter to video-makers that YouTube must remain an "open platform". She said the desire to welcome all kinds of views had to be balanced against a "responsibility to protect the community".

"A commitment to openness is not easy. It sometimes means leaving up content that is outside the mainstream, controversial or even offensive," she said. "Hearing a broad range of perspectives ultimately makes us a stronger and more informed society," she claimed.

'I am Talking Directly to You': US Attorney Delivers Powerful Rebuke to White Nationalists

ABC News:

The U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Ohio on Thursday announced new federal charges against a self-avowed white nationalist accused of threatening to commit an attack on a local Jewish community center. James Reardon, who attended the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, was arrested last week after authorities said he posted the threat on Instagram. U.S. Attorney Justin Herdman said Reardon has now been charged with one count of making threats as authorities continue their investigation into Reardon and whether he my have any accomplices.

Of course, not so much that, but what Herdman said after that.

"I am talking directly to you," Herdman said at a news conference announcing the charges. "The Constitution protects your right to speak, your right to think, and your right to believe. If you want to waste the blessings of liberty by going down a path of hatred and failed ideologies, that is your choice."

Herdman continued, evoking the sacrifices made by U.S. service members in World War II against Nazism, as well as those who marched for civil rights throughout U.S. history.

"Thousands and thousands of young Americans already voted with their lives to ensure that this same message of intolerance, death, and destruction would not prevail - you can count their ballots by visiting any American cemetery in North Africa, Italy, France, or Belgium and tallying the white headstones," Herdman said. "You can also recite the many names of civil rights advocates who bled and died in opposing supporters of those same ideologies of hatred. Their voices may be distant, but they can still be heard."

"The Constitution may give you a voice, but it doesn't guarantee you a receptive audience," Herdman added.


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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by XivLacuna on Saturday August 31 2019, @01:59AM (18 children)

    by XivLacuna (6346) on Saturday August 31 2019, @01:59AM (#888041)

    Incest is more of a Jewish problem that they like to project on people they hate using their media empires. They have inbred so much that their chances of getting mental illness is something like 40 times the normal rates and they have several lovely genetic disorders from it too. To put icing on this mental illness cake, they then circumcise their sons which makes it more likely for mental illness to manifest if they survive the Rabbi's Genital Herpes infested mouth sucking the blood off of the freshly cut baby penis. It is quite the problem in New York City.

    The poverty comes from the 1% shipping our jobs overseas and importing low cost labor in order to get even more money that they won't be using beyond investments to get even more money. The malnutrition comes from the 1% deciding to completely screw over Americans in their financial games.

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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday August 31 2019, @02:16AM (17 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday August 31 2019, @02:16AM (#888052) Journal

    ...uhh...Appalachia is full of Jews? That's the first I'd ever heard of it.

    Come on, boy, answer the original question. If you can. I bet you can't. You ran smack into it, fell face-first, and ate shit like Wile E Coyote off the edge of a cliff!

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    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by XivLacuna on Saturday August 31 2019, @02:25AM (14 children)

      by XivLacuna (6346) on Saturday August 31 2019, @02:25AM (#888058)

      Appalachia isn't full of jews but the whole "whites are inbred" meme came from Jewish media projecting their own problems on to us to dehumanize whites. Whites might have the occasional second cousin marriage but everyone else often has first cousin marriages.

      • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday August 31 2019, @02:50AM (2 children)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday August 31 2019, @02:50AM (#888067) Journal

        the whole "whites are inbred" meme came from Jewish media

        Or, "Dueling Banjos" from the movie "Deliverance". And, the ringworm. Great thing about being white trash, at least you're not Jewish. Oh, and you can be really stupid, and support Trump and think he will bring back the coal jobs. But let us not forget the Traditional Workers Party, co-founded by Matt Heimbach, [wikipedia.org] who was bonking his own mother-in-law and wife of his father-in-law and co-founder, in a trailer park, in Indiana. There is a Lacuna in your anti-semitism, XivLacuna! You are empty.

        • (Score: 1) by XivLacuna on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:07AM (1 child)

          by XivLacuna (6346) on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:07AM (#888070)

          Your proof of southerners commit incest is a Hollywood movie. A work of fiction.

          Matthew Heimbach is a piece of shit but his "mother-in-law" was actually the step-mother of his wife and in her thirties if I remember correctly. I am glad he is no longer working hard to make white people look bad.

          Since you are bringing up our worst, I would like to remind everyone that Roman Polanski is still a fugitive avoiding his sentence for statutory rape of a 13 year old that he drugged and raped.

          • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday August 31 2019, @07:13AM

            by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday August 31 2019, @07:13AM (#888143) Journal

            You miss the point of the movie, and the reality it represented? Squeal like a pig, XivLacuna! You sure have a purty mouth! With a shotgun pointed at your head! Come, now, what were you saying about white homosexual supremacy? Once you go white, well you're probably dead. But that is how the alt-right incels role. Proud, sterile, non-reproductive, boys. Squeal, Lacuna! Sweal again! For Runaway!

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:21AM (3 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:21AM (#888080) Journal

        Stop squirming, you little prick. If you want to say the nice middle class places are white culture because they're full of white people, then all the poor broken down places full of white people are also that way because of white culture.

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        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by XivLacuna on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:39AM (2 children)

          by XivLacuna (6346) on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:39AM (#888087)

          When liberal types go out and push for bans on industries that were the foundation of many regions of the US all while exporting all of the jobs to other countries, what do you expect to happen? Ban coal, ban metal smelting, ban logging, oh this area is a non-build zone thanks to the protected species act. The only mistake these small town people made was not moving out when the liberals decided to completely destroy their way of life.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday August 31 2019, @11:39AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday August 31 2019, @11:39AM (#888187) Journal

            Wow, look at those goalposts fly!

            Still white people, so still "white culture." You could as well say it's their fault for not retraining, using their superior white intellects to reshape the community around them. Or, let me guess, "liberals" in your parlance are somehow not actually white even if they have pale hides, because something something cultural treason? Dumbass

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 31 2019, @08:09PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 31 2019, @08:09PM (#888303)

            And you think that Republicans aren't voting for awful trade deals that result in many jobs being exported? Trump is inserting provisions from the TPP into the NAFTA renegotiation, which isn't otherwise changed much at all from NAFTA anyway. Republican politicians are the worst corporatists (and therefore job exporters) in the country. Of course, far too many Democrats are also corporatists. Bernie Sanders, however, has a good track record of opposing awful trade deals which export jobs. Surely you'll vote for him, if you care that much about the issue?

            The only mistake these small town people made was not moving out when the liberals decided to completely destroy their way of life.

            If their way of life includes poisoning their air and water, it won't last very long.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:01PM (6 children)

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:01PM (#888230) Journal

        Jewish media projecting their own problems on to us to dehumanize whites

        So you are saying that people with white skin cannot follow the Jewish religion? I'll have to go and stand outside numerous synagogues in the UK and tell people that their skin colour has been changed!

        You are conflating two separate facts and trying to make a strawman. The colour of your skin does not dictate which religion you many follow. There are white Christians and black Christians. There are white Muslims and black Muslims. The same can be said for any religion if you care to open your eyes and look more closely, rather than simply believe what you have read or been told. They may not be the majority, but they exist.

        • (Score: 0, Informative) by XivLacuna on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:39PM (5 children)

          by XivLacuna (6346) on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:39PM (#888241)

          Jewish people only consider themselves white when telling white people to act against their own group interests or when they are caught committing a crime. "Fellow white people"

          Afterwards they go back to not being white. I am just referring to their default state before any shape shifting happens.

          If I was expelled from places 109 times I'd start to wonder if there was something other than irrational hatred motivating people to expel me.

          • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday August 31 2019, @04:36PM (4 children)

            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 31 2019, @04:36PM (#888250) Journal

            Jewish people only consider themselves white when telling white people to act against their own group interests or when they are caught committing a crime.

            Citation - and from a reputable source please. You are making the claim, now prove it.

            I am just referring to their default state before any shape shifting happens.

            You are confusing the movies with real life. Shape shifting is a science fiction phenomenon.

            • (Score: 1) by XivLacuna on Saturday August 31 2019, @06:18PM

              by XivLacuna (6346) on Saturday August 31 2019, @06:18PM (#888276)

              I am not sure if these will be good enough sources for you, but enjoy.

              https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jun/12/what-does-it-mean-to-be-genetically-jewish [theguardian.com]

              https://forward.com/opinion/427300/as-a-jew-i-cringed-over-jeffrey-epstein-i-played-into-the-anti-semites/ [forward.com]

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Bhd81QSKQ [youtube.com] "I am not a German, I am a jew"
              With the video do not take a shot of any sort of alcohol when you notice stuff meant to emotionally manipulate you. You will end up in the hospital even if you are only drinking a light beer to get your stomach pumped.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 31 2019, @08:34PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 31 2019, @08:34PM (#888310)

              This is something Ben Shapiro does all the time. He considers himself Europen when it comes to encouraging migration and saying its necessary and non-dangerous for them to come into Europe, then considers himself a Jew to call migration into Israel an organized genocide.

              • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday September 01 2019, @04:18AM

                by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 01 2019, @04:18AM (#888390) Journal
                The two things and not mutually exclusive. He can be both Northern European and Jewish. Judaism is a religion. Those who practice it do not all originate or live in Israel.
              • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday September 02 2019, @01:48AM

                by Reziac (2489) on Monday September 02 2019, @01:48AM (#888689) Homepage

                The problem with Shapiro isn't that he wobbles between being Jewish and being European; it's that he has no balls and is a weathercock about everything. Pretty much all someone has to do to get him to swing the other way is to label his current position with some sort of terrible -ism. (Okay, I exaggerate, but that's the impression he's given me, to the point that I've stopped paying attention to him.) I remember when he was against accepting migrants, and that was just four years ago. Then he got called a racist a few times, and magically changed his mind.

                https://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2015/11/18/draft-n2082108 [townhall.com]

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:28PM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 31 2019, @03:28PM (#888238) Journal

      You realize that incest is not a "white" thing? Back when I was driving truck, one of my black buddies shared a story with me. He got stuck in S. Carolina over a weekend. The town was pretty much all black. Bigger than a one stop light crossroads, I think they had maybe ten stop lights in the whole town. So, black man in an all black town - and he felt uncomfortable, almost scared. Everyone he met looked alike, like cookie cutter gingerbread men and women. I laughed at him, and told him I'd heard similar stories about white people, but never black. The man laughed right back at me, and asked me which sins I thought only white people were guilty of.

      Yeah, an entire town filled with inbred black people. Amazing, huh?

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday August 31 2019, @11:25PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday August 31 2019, @11:25PM (#888341) Journal

        Did you have a point somewhere? Like, besides on top of your head, Zippy?

        No? I didn't think so.

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