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Verizon yesterday announced that its 5G service is available in 13 NFL stadiums but said the network is only able to cover "parts" of the seating areas. Verizon 5G signals will also be sparse or non-existent when fans walk through concourses and other areas in and around each stadium.
The rollout of 5G is more complicated than the rollout of 4G was because 5G relies heavily on millimeter-wave signals that don't travel far and are easily blocked by walls and other obstacles. While Verizon is trying to build excitement around 5G, its announcement for availability in NFL stadiums carried several caveats.
"Verizon 5G Ultra Wideband service will be available in areas of the [13] stadiums," Verizon said. "Service will be concentrated in parts of the seating areas but could be available in other locations in and around the stadium as well."
Notice the phrase "could be available" in that last sentence. Verizon isn't promising any 5G coverage outside the seating areas, and the seating-area coverage will only be available in some sections.
[...] 5G can work on any frequency used by mobile networks, including the lower-band frequencies Verizon uses for its nationwide 4G network. But Verizon has said that customers will only notice small speed increases on 5G when it's delivered over low-band frequencies. The big speed increases will come on millimeter-wave deployments, which will be concentrated in densely populated areas.
The 13 stadiums where Verizon 5G is partially available include those used by the Carolina Panthers, Denver Broncos, Seattle Seahawks, Detroit Lions, New England Patriots, Miami Dolphins, Indianapolis Colts, New York Giants and New York Jets (they share a stadium in New Jersey), Baltimore Ravens, Houston Texans, Chicago Bears, and Minnesota Vikings. That's only 12 stadiums, so there's a 13th that Verizon hasn't revealed. There are another 18 other NFL stadiums without Verizon 5G service.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 09 2019, @01:14PM (12 children)
The faster the speed, the less penetration of solid objects you get. 2.6GHz has passable but not good solid object penetration and 5GHz has shitty penetration 802.11ad at 60GHZ? Yeah, pretty cocktastic penetration; basically nothing more signal-blocking than your clothes will get passed through at all.
Now go over to "millimeter-wave" 5g and you're talking a range of around 30-300GHZ. Fast as fuck for data transfer but unlikely to even penetrate thin cardboard at the high end. Antenna placement within your phone had to be a pretty big issue because your hand will be more than enough to block signal entirely if you hold it in a manner the designers hadn't anticipated.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Monday September 09 2019, @01:21PM (4 children)
Their response seems fine to me. If they want to offer more coverage, they'll put more "nanocells" near the concessions stands, bathrooms, or whatever.
Heaven forbid you drop back to 4G.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 09 2019, @04:10PM
The stands? The only viable place, since it's essentially line-of-sight-only what with the people sitting in front of or behind you able to completely block the signal, to put it would be almost directly overhead. That's all fine and good for domes but completely useless for open stadiums.
As usual, if an ethernet cord is at all a viable option, it is the best option by a damned sight.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday September 10 2019, @04:04AM (2 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday September 10 2019, @11:33AM (1 child)
They're turning the freaking frogs gay.
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(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday September 10 2019, @01:48PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Monday September 09 2019, @02:22PM (3 children)
5G also has sub-5GHz, sub-1GHz, MU-MIMO and beamforming:
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2019/06/20/how-5g-massive-mimo-transforms-your-mobile-experiences [qualcomm.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G_NR_frequency_bands [wikipedia.org]
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(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday September 09 2019, @03:24PM (2 children)
All the tricks... does it also transfer data via audio-modem when RF interference is too high?
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Monday September 09 2019, @03:32PM (1 child)
Only when the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. want it to.
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(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday September 09 2019, @03:52PM
There are covert systems to monitor data transfer via audio signatures of electronic equipment- they can tell more than you might imagine from the patterns of the whine...
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(Score: 4, Funny) by Freeman on Monday September 09 2019, @03:34PM (2 children)
So, quite literally, "you're holding it wrong".
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 09 2019, @08:35PM (1 child)
But, thanks to bluetooth, you don't hold the phone anymore, you leave it in your pocket/purse/whatever ... so now "whatever" just needs to be an aerial mount to hold your phone up where reception is good, and no more problems.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday September 10 2019, @02:15PM
Then, excuse me for wanting to hold my phone at all.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"