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posted by janrinok on Tuesday September 10 2019, @01:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the can't-tell-you,-it's-secret dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

When Microsoft asked US lawmakers to explain the threat [from Huawei], they've been too vague for Smith's liking. Huawei is a major customer of his company: Its laptops come with Microsoft's Windows operating system.

"Oftentimes, what we get in response is, 'Well, if you knew what we knew, you would agree with us'," Smith told Bloomberg. "And our answer is, 'Great, show us what you know so we can decide for ourselves. That's the way this country works.' " 

[...] Smith, who's also Microsoft's chief legal officer, said his company argued that the department should limit its ban to sales that pose national security risks, such as universities with Chinese military links -- an approach he compared to a "scalpel" rather than its current "meat cleaver" method.

Neither Huawei nor the White House immediately responded to requests for comment.


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  • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Tuesday September 10 2019, @02:53PM (5 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 10 2019, @02:53PM (#892222) Journal

    Yeah, but also, no one is looking for huawei. It was an expanding company in the US. Their products have a pretty solid reputation in China, but that doesn't really transfer here.

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  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday September 10 2019, @04:47PM (3 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday September 10 2019, @04:47PM (#892266)

    Well, of course... Apple is a made in China brand which offshores all their profits, you don't see them being singled out, do you?

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    • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Tuesday September 10 2019, @05:01PM (2 children)

      by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 10 2019, @05:01PM (#892270) Journal

      I guess that's a true statement, but I don't know what you're getting at.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday September 10 2019, @06:39PM (1 child)

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday September 10 2019, @06:39PM (#892302)

        So many things, how to list them all...? All the "best" people use Apple products. Apple has strong established ties (kickbacks) into government, especially education, smacking Apple around would make lots of people with various levels of political power unhappy - same with any established supplier like Dell, HP, IBM, etc. Meanwhile, Huawei is an upstart in the US, very little established market presence, almost no established government ties - what better time to kick them around than before they grow roots in North America? And, who, really, is going to complain that they can't get their Huawei whatever? Anybody who has bought a China market cellphone in the last 5 years, that's who - their stuff is 2-3 years ahead of the US carriers' officially supported hardware, and half the price, but very few US citizens even know to care about this, and there are plenty of other China market suppliers besides Huawei.

        I seem to recall back in the 1980s Toshiba leaked rather important military secrets to the Russians, particularly around the area of silent submarine props. I also seem to recall very little happening to them as a result because: lots of US interests would have been hurt if Toshiba was hurt.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 10 2019, @07:12PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 10 2019, @07:12PM (#892309)

          I seem to recall back in the 1980s Toshiba leaked rather important military secrets to the Russians, particularly around the area of silent submarine props. I also seem to recall very little happening to them as a result because: lots of US interests would have been hurt if Toshiba was hurt.

          Yes, around 1986-1987 I remember.

          We got them to buy our nucular industry though, that really put them through the wringer.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 11 2019, @08:20AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 11 2019, @08:20AM (#892592)

    Their products have a pretty solid reputation in China, but that doesn't really transfer here.

    That "here" is only valid for America. Huawei has been steadily eating market share of Apple and other US companies all over the world. And THAT is the reason for the accusations and ban.

    And to this point it really are only accusations, it's been going on for a long time now, still not a single piece of evidence or semblence of evidence. In fact, evidence to the opposite is given by the fact that all allies and 5-eyes members happily continue on using Huawei.