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At The Hill,
Washington Monthly Executive Editor Gilad Edelman said the perception of Silicon Valley has shifted dramatically among Democrats and Republicans since the 2016 presidential election.
Edelman told Hill.TV that the industry was relatively insulated from criticism and viewed favorably by both parties until President Trump's surprise victory over Hillary Clinton, saying his win "really scrambled a lot these beliefs and intuitions."
"Silicon Valley seems to have gone from an industry with no enemies to an industry with no friends," Edelman said during an interview on "Rising."
"Democrats realized that whatever the CEOs of Google or Facebook might think, these platforms seems to have facilitated Donald Trump's election," he added. "On the right, the fact that Trump could get elected while breaking from some pretty serious orthodoxies — at least superficially on economic matters — meant that maybe there was more room to criticize corporate business practices than conservatives had previously thought."
(Score: 5, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday September 11 2019, @02:14PM (19 children)
Fake news is the only news we get, always has been, likely always will be.
Go witness an event firsthand, then travel 1000 miles away and learn as much as you can about that event from the available media - tell me how often the story you observed is fairly, objectively, accurately, and completely covered by the media. In my experience: never. You're lucky if the press isn't outright lying or misrepresenting what happened, and you never get the whole unbiased story.
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(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 11 2019, @02:26PM (10 children)
You're saying your experience of the event is objective, complete and accurate? Since it's certainly not, is it fair that you should talk about it?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 11 2019, @02:39PM (9 children)
I don't know Joe personally. It's possible that he's deaf, dumb, and blind. He could be the male reincarnation of Helen Keller for all I know. And, I'd still favor his eyewitness account of an incident over media reporting. I have also witnessed events that were later reported in the news. Not even a trustworthy smalltown paper can be trusted not to sensationalize a story, or to put a political slant on the most mundane of stories. Few reporters are actually eyewitnesses to the events they report, after all. Remember the saying, "When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away"? Well, the reporters arrive minutes after the cops arrive. They walk up to the police barricades, point their cameras and microphones, and try to interview a cop or two, and any eyewitness they can identify. If they can get a drama queen on video, they have a successful story, and that's all they care about.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday September 11 2019, @05:09PM (3 children)
Which is why mass generated media like Facebook, etc. is so revolutionary / scary for the establishment. Sure, everybody has an angle, prejudices, color on their commentary, but... with BILLIONS of sources, you get a statistically analyzable sample with everyone's biases out there to see. No longer do you parse the output of three primary sources and develop a huge assumption model on how their outlets color the news attempting to infer the truth-for-your-purposes, there's actually enough noise out there to average it out and extract a meaningful signal.
Of course, as Cambridge Analytica and friends have already demonstrated: this, too, is ripe for manipulation...
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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 11 2019, @05:45PM (1 child)
Exactly.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday September 11 2019, @06:02PM
I used to follow Scott Adams blog. In it, he related a very personal story about his bout of verbal aphasia - he had a great deal of trouble speaking for a while, which he eventually started to cure by sing-song repeating a word. As the story developed, he shared details of his struggles and progress over time. Then, a few years later, I guess he decided that was a little too much share for his taste, so he had it all scrubbed, not just off his blog but also off secondary mentions of it around the web. I didn't try too hard, but I definitely noticed it there, then gone.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @02:49AM
BILLIONS of sources that just happened to be perfectly correlated with a small number of sources.
You don't have a normal distribution that averages away noise. You have a noise amplifier that hides the signal. It's YOU. It's YOU, cunt.
(Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Thursday September 12 2019, @03:32AM (4 children)
It's a physiological response to stressful events. When you're in fight or flight mode, you're not usually going to have the presence of mind to stare a perp in the face and memorize their features (which is unfortunate because that response is really disconcerting to a would-be attacker, but it's also high risk).
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(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @04:30PM
There's physical evidence of you not being good at programming C or C++ as APK schooled you on Pascal's speed/security advantages a blowhard wannabe in you ae unaware of https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=33430&page=1&cid=889582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you're caught stalking him in you quoted at that posts termination too. You are a joke.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 13 2019, @12:31AM (2 children)
I am well aware of the unreliability of eyewitnesses. In fact, I have proven to be a poor eyewitness more than once. The only thing that might make me a little more reliable than the typical eyewitness is, I am capable of questioning myself. Example: I witnessed an auto accident, in which a paper delivery guy ran a stop sign, almost drove onto a railroad track, did a crazy-ass U-turn, came back out into the intersection and smashed into a car. Guy jumps out of the car that was hit, then a woman gets out. My crap powers of observation told me that the guy was driving. WRONG!! The guy got out first, the woman followed, and somehow I assumed the guy was driving. But, he couldn't have been driving and get out first, because the paper delivery guy's car was sitting against the driver's door. Stupid, right? So, yeah, eyewitnesses are unreliable.
The point, though, is that newspaper accounts are generally LESS RELIABLE than eyewitnesses. Eyewitness accounts may be 75% accurate, but news reporting is far less than 75% accurate.
(Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Friday September 13 2019, @12:55AM (1 child)
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(Score: 0, Flamebait) by khallow on Friday September 13 2019, @03:47AM
Ridiculous how? The Graniad has worked for generations to build a fine rep as a shit paper. I can't rule out that it might be better than the Daily Mail, but what I've seen so far hasn't been very promising.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Wednesday September 11 2019, @02:58PM (1 child)
In other words: missing an easily digestible narrative, nuanced, and in the end, boring. You know, like real life.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday September 11 2019, @05:13PM
There's usually a digestible narrative - almost never easy, and lots of nuance, and real life is usually in the end boring, or maybe not - how do Oprah et. al. make their living? In large part by taking "ordinary" people with "ordinary" stories and slapping them up on stage for America to gasp in horror and amusement at for 20 minutes or so...
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 11 2019, @03:53PM (5 children)
I was once the subject of a feature story in the Thanksgiving edition of our local paper about hosting two children from Guatemala in our home for facial surgery from a charity organization. Despite the totally friendly and favorable nature of the coverage, I was surprised by the number of inaccuracies and misquotes in the published article.
(Score: 3, Disagree) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday September 11 2019, @05:05PM (1 child)
I was interviewed by a business rag about our product, I mentioned to the reporter that our technology - as commercialized by a different company - had been used on the Space Shuttle, once. That was the only mention of space or NASA, and I certainly never made any projections about our future business prospects (publicly traded company...) I also spoke at length about several other topics. The reporter's one and only quote of me:
"Joe Merchant says: this company is going to the Moon!"
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @04:51AM
This story - every part of it - is from you. Isn't this just the same shit you're complaining about?
(Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Thursday September 12 2019, @03:40AM (2 children)
She said she'd submit a correction, I told her not to bother, if anyone said anything I'd say I had a brain fart and that I meant the opposite.
We take to forget that we're dealing with people working on deadline who are trying to get the facts while the people they're talking to have agendas, everything from self-aggrandizement to fraud. Unless they're purposefully trying to slant a story, cut them some slack - the ones I've known are good people.
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(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @04:24PM
You are an idiot. APK proved it 3 ways in you caught quoted admitting you stalked him by unidentifiable anon posts + your blunders on C\C++ vs. Pascal security\speed advantages https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=33430&page=1&cid=889582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] + you are a mentalcase tranny sicko that chemically castrated/neutered yourself too.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @06:11PM
You're an idiot. APK proved it 3 ways: You admit you stalked him by unidentifiable anon posts quoted directly, + your blunders on C\C++ vs. Pascal security\speed advantages https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=33430&page=1&cid=889582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] + you're a mentalcase tranny sicko that chemically castrated/neutered itself deluding yourself you are a real woman. Clue: You're not and never can be.