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posted by janrinok on Wednesday September 11 2019, @01:52PM   Printer-friendly
from the with-great-power-comes-great-responsibility dept.

At The Hill,

Washington Monthly Executive Editor Gilad Edelman said the perception of Silicon Valley has shifted dramatically among Democrats and Republicans since the 2016 presidential election.

Edelman told Hill.TV that the industry was relatively insulated from criticism and viewed favorably by both parties until President Trump's surprise victory over Hillary Clinton, saying his win "really scrambled a lot these beliefs and intuitions."

"Silicon Valley seems to have gone from an industry with no enemies to an industry with no friends," Edelman said during an interview on "Rising."

"Democrats realized that whatever the CEOs of Google or Facebook might think, these platforms seems to have facilitated Donald Trump's election," he added. "On the right, the fact that Trump could get elected while breaking from some pretty serious orthodoxies — at least superficially on economic matters — meant that maybe there was more room to criticize corporate business practices than conservatives had previously thought."


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 11 2019, @02:39PM (9 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 11 2019, @02:39PM (#892696) Journal

    I don't know Joe personally. It's possible that he's deaf, dumb, and blind. He could be the male reincarnation of Helen Keller for all I know. And, I'd still favor his eyewitness account of an incident over media reporting. I have also witnessed events that were later reported in the news. Not even a trustworthy smalltown paper can be trusted not to sensationalize a story, or to put a political slant on the most mundane of stories. Few reporters are actually eyewitnesses to the events they report, after all. Remember the saying, "When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away"? Well, the reporters arrive minutes after the cops arrive. They walk up to the police barricades, point their cameras and microphones, and try to interview a cop or two, and any eyewitness they can identify. If they can get a drama queen on video, they have a successful story, and that's all they care about.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday September 11 2019, @05:09PM (3 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday September 11 2019, @05:09PM (#892795)

    Which is why mass generated media like Facebook, etc. is so revolutionary / scary for the establishment. Sure, everybody has an angle, prejudices, color on their commentary, but... with BILLIONS of sources, you get a statistically analyzable sample with everyone's biases out there to see. No longer do you parse the output of three primary sources and develop a huge assumption model on how their outlets color the news attempting to infer the truth-for-your-purposes, there's actually enough noise out there to average it out and extract a meaningful signal.

    Of course, as Cambridge Analytica and friends have already demonstrated: this, too, is ripe for manipulation...

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 11 2019, @05:45PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 11 2019, @05:45PM (#892822)

      Exactly.

      I was laid over in the Chicago airport a while after 9/11. I don't remember exactly. Was sitting there reading the Chicago Tribune and there was an article in Section B or C about a Kenyan running for the Illinois State Senate. Had a picture of Barry Obama. I remember it because his name was so close to Osama bin Laden. When I first saw the article I honestly thought Osama bin Laden was running for the Illinois State Senate. How could onThat is how I figured out Barry was born in Kenya. e forget? Then that article was later scrubbed from the paper's archives and the Internet. I know what I saw. I know what I read.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday September 11 2019, @06:02PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday September 11 2019, @06:02PM (#892835)

        I used to follow Scott Adams blog. In it, he related a very personal story about his bout of verbal aphasia - he had a great deal of trouble speaking for a while, which he eventually started to cure by sing-song repeating a word. As the story developed, he shared details of his struggles and progress over time. Then, a few years later, I guess he decided that was a little too much share for his taste, so he had it all scrubbed, not just off his blog but also off secondary mentions of it around the web. I didn't try too hard, but I definitely noticed it there, then gone.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @02:49AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @02:49AM (#893030)

      BILLIONS of sources that just happened to be perfectly correlated with a small number of sources.

      You don't have a normal distribution that averages away noise. You have a noise amplifier that hides the signal. It's YOU. It's YOU, cunt.

  • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Thursday September 12 2019, @03:32AM (4 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Thursday September 12 2019, @03:32AM (#893040) Journal
    Eyewitnesses are shitty, contradictory, and 2/3 of the time their accounts are contradictory and contradicted by physical evidence. People are just not very good at observing what's going on around them on a daily basis, and this is compounded during stressful events.

    It's a physiological response to stressful events. When you're in fight or flight mode, you're not usually going to have the presence of mind to stare a perp in the face and memorize their features (which is unfortunate because that response is really disconcerting to a would-be attacker, but it's also high risk).

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    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @04:30PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @04:30PM (#893214)

      There's physical evidence of you not being good at programming C or C++ as APK schooled you on Pascal's speed/security advantages a blowhard wannabe in you ae unaware of https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=33430&page=1&cid=889582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you're caught stalking him in you quoted at that posts termination too. You are a joke.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 13 2019, @12:31AM (2 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 13 2019, @12:31AM (#893439) Journal

      I am well aware of the unreliability of eyewitnesses. In fact, I have proven to be a poor eyewitness more than once. The only thing that might make me a little more reliable than the typical eyewitness is, I am capable of questioning myself. Example: I witnessed an auto accident, in which a paper delivery guy ran a stop sign, almost drove onto a railroad track, did a crazy-ass U-turn, came back out into the intersection and smashed into a car. Guy jumps out of the car that was hit, then a woman gets out. My crap powers of observation told me that the guy was driving. WRONG!! The guy got out first, the woman followed, and somehow I assumed the guy was driving. But, he couldn't have been driving and get out first, because the paper delivery guy's car was sitting against the driver's door. Stupid, right? So, yeah, eyewitnesses are unreliable.

      The point, though, is that newspaper accounts are generally LESS RELIABLE than eyewitnesses. Eyewitness accounts may be 75% accurate, but news reporting is far less than 75% accurate.

      • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Friday September 13 2019, @12:55AM (1 child)

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday September 13 2019, @12:55AM (#893450) Journal
        IEye witnesses are far less than 75% accurate. At the same time, confabulation of shit papers like the Daily Mail and other Murdoch media with mainstream media like The Guardian is ridiculous.
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        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by khallow on Friday September 13 2019, @03:47AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 13 2019, @03:47AM (#893516) Journal

          At the same time, confabulation of shit papers like the Daily Mail and other Murdoch media with mainstream media like The Guardian is ridiculous.

          Ridiculous how? The Graniad has worked for generations to build a fine rep as a shit paper. I can't rule out that it might be better than the Daily Mail, but what I've seen so far hasn't been very promising.