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posted by janrinok on Wednesday September 11 2019, @04:52PM   Printer-friendly
from the we-like-near-misses dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

New findings from University of Kansas experimental nuclear physicists Daniel Tapia Takaki and Aleksandr (Sasha) Bylinkin were just published in the European Physical Journal C. The paper centers on work at the Compact Muon Solenoid, an experiment at the Large Hadron Collider, to better understand the behavior of gluons.

Gluons are elementary particles that are responsible for "gluing" together quarks and anti-quarks to form protons and neutrons—so, gluons play a role in about 98% of all the visible matter in the universe. Previous experiments at the now-decommissioned HERA electron-proton collider found when protons are accelerated close to light-speed, the density of gluons inside them increases very rapidly.

"In these cases, gluons split into pairs of gluons with lower energies, and such gluons split themselves subsequently, and so forth," said Tapia Takaki, KU associate professor of physics & astronomy. "At some point, the splitting of gluons inside the proton reaches a limit at which the multiplication of gluons ceases to increase. Such a state is known as the 'color glass condensate,' a hypothesized phase of matter that is thought to exist in very high-energy protons and as well as in heavy nuclei."

The KU researcher said his team's more recent experimental results at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider and LHC seemed to confirm the existence of such a gluon-dominated state. The exact conditions and the precise energy needed to observe "gluon saturation" in the proton or in heavy nuclei are not yet known, he said.

"The CMS experimental results are very exciting, giving new information about the gluon dynamics in the proton," said Victor Goncalves, professor of physics at Federal University of Pelotas in Brazil, who was working at KU under a Brazil-U.S. Professorship given jointly by the Sociedade Brasileira de Física and the American Physical Society. "The data tell us what the energy and dipole sizes are needed to get deeper into the gluonic-dominated regime where nonlinear QCD effects become dominant."

Although experiments at the LHC don't directly study interaction of the proton with elementary particles such as those of the late HERA collider, it's possible to use an alternative method to study gluon saturation. When accelerated protons (or ions) miss each other, photon interactions occur with the proton (or the ion). These near misses are called ultra-peripheral collisions (UPCs) as the photon interactions mostly occur when the colliding particles are significantly separated from each other.

[...] The researchers said the work is significant because it's the first establishment of four measured points in terms of the energy of the photon-proton interaction and as a function of the momentum transfer.

"Previous experiments at HERA only had one single point in energy," Tapia Takaki said. "For our recent result, the lowest point in energy is about 35 GeV and the highest one is about 180 GeV. This does not sound like a very high energy point, considering that for recent J/psi and Upsilon measurements from UPCs at the LHC we have studied processes up to the 1000s GeV. The key point here is that although the energy is much lower in our Rho0 studies, the dipole size is very large."


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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday September 11 2019, @06:00PM (6 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 11 2019, @06:00PM (#892832) Journal

    it doesn't make sense to have even more stillness than total stillness.

    Similarly with absolute darkness. It doesn't make sense to have even more dark than total dark. Or total absence of light. But like absolute zero temperature, can you ever really quite get there? Speaking of dark, a total absence of photons?

    From TFA . . .

    when protons are accelerated close to light-speed, the density of gluons inside them increases very rapidly.

    Maybe it only appears to us, from our frame of reference that gluon density increases very rapidly. Maybe those accelerated protons see our gluon density decreasing very rapidly?

    The KU researcher said . . .

    Ah! In the same town with this local headline that could have been better written . . .

    Suicides on the rise locally; Lawrence summit will offer tools to help [ljworld.com]

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by hendrikboom on Wednesday September 11 2019, @06:06PM (4 children)

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 11 2019, @06:06PM (#892837) Homepage Journal

    Not clear to me whether the increased gluon presence is during acceleration or after it, i.e., when velocity is near light-speed. If it's the latter, we'll be near light-speed in the proton's reference frame. so the protons would see *our* protons has having extra gluons as well.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday September 11 2019, @06:15PM (3 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 11 2019, @06:15PM (#892844) Journal

      Good point. Sorry no mod points left for a Touche. Just like how contraction (foreshortening) of length works both ways.

      <sarcasm>but since we are "at rest", our protons should have extra gluons as seen from the protons moving near light speed</sarcasm>

      Based on my layman's understanding, an electron "orbiting" a nucleus, is not really at any single physical location. It is really at all points around the nucleus at the same time, just with higher probabilities of being at certain locations. ("everyman's guide to science") Maybe our thinking of and describing of gluons as particles limits our thinking. Is there a way gluons could have higher density without having an increased "count"? Not that I would know.

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      • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Wednesday September 11 2019, @08:59PM

        by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 11 2019, @08:59PM (#892899) Homepage Journal

        I supposed they could be a mixed state whose eigenstates have different counts. Those eigenstates would of course be the eigenstates of the "count 'em" operator.

      • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Wednesday September 11 2019, @09:06PM (1 child)

        by Snotnose (1623) on Wednesday September 11 2019, @09:06PM (#892900)

        Based on my layman's understanding, an electron "orbiting" a nucleus, is not really at any single physical location. It is really at all points around the nucleus at the same time, just with higher probabilities of being at certain locations.

        It's even weirder. The electron can not only be inside the nucleus itself, it can be inside the protons and neutrons.

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        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday September 11 2019, @09:23PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 11 2019, @09:23PM (#892906) Journal

          I did notice that the electron could be inside the proton.

          Of course, it's just the probability that the electron is there.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday September 11 2019, @10:32PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 11 2019, @10:32PM (#892935) Journal

    But like absolute zero temperature, can you ever really quite get there?

    Nope, even if, paradoxically, you can reach in the territory of negative absolute temperatures (all lasers are operating in this mode).
    The highest temperature theoretically possible is minus-zero-absolute; as for the case of positive zero temperatures, you approach it asymptotically.

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