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posted by martyb on Friday September 13 2019, @03:50PM   Printer-friendly
from the Why-is-it-you-can-"regret"-but-cannot-just-"gret"? dept.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/12/20862352/youtube-algorithm-recommendation-social-campaign-mozilla-firefox

Mozilla is trying to shame YouTube into doing more to fix its numerous recommendation algorithm issues, many of which can lead users down dangerous content spirals.

With a new social media campaign called #YouTubeRegrets, Mozilla is asking people to submit their own experiences of falling down the recommendation rabbit hole, and discuss how they got from point A to point B. Everything is done through a Google Doc, which includes a little more information about the project.

"Once, at 2 a.m., you searched YouTube for 'Did aliens build Stonehenge?' Ever since, your YouTube recommendations have been a mess: Roswell, wormholes, Illuminati," Mozilla writes. "YouTube's recommendation engine can lead users down bizarre rabbit holes — and they're not always harmless."

If, somehow, you find insufficient distraction on YouTube, check out this oldie-but-goodie 19 Wikipedia Pages That'll Send You Into A Week-Long Wikihole. It's exactly what's on the tin; highly recommended. Unless you have too much to do; in that case do NOT go there.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by ikanreed on Friday September 13 2019, @04:25PM (13 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 13 2019, @04:25PM (#893721) Journal

    Here's the thing, though. If your actual source for that information is youtube, I'm gonna assume you're full of shit. I don't care if it's true, I'm never gonna engage with anyone making argument via idiot ranting at screen.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @04:32PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @04:32PM (#893724)

    I'm never gonna engage with anyone making argument via idiot ranting at screen.

    So basically you don't trust CNN, etc.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by ikanreed on Friday September 13 2019, @04:44PM (6 children)

      by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 13 2019, @04:44PM (#893729) Journal

      No. I fucking don't. Of course I don't.

      There are countries that have reasonably functional TV news, but the US is not one of them.

      There's nothing at all informative about a panel show of 5 politically hyperbiased(not always strictly partisan per se) people "analyzing" one sentence of one public figure for 15 minutes. Or one commentator talking for half a fucking hour about the implications of one low quality poll.

      The fact that Fox News is unambiguously in the tank for the republican party and CNN isn't doesn't make me view CNN as some kind of bastion of good journalism.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @06:32PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @06:32PM (#893792)

        It may have changed, but last time I looked PBS Newshour came close. Also last time I looked CBS wasn't too bad.b Then again, my biases could just be showing and I haven't give

        Where I'd lay the blame is the concept that news has to run 24/7. While everything is important to someone there really isn't a need for constant-live news. We used to get this back in the days of Headline News (before they puked overthemselves figuring out that 'personalities' draw ratings which led into the HLN unwatchable mess). Even though the Internet can supply me with a half hour newscast on my schedule I miss the days of the repeating half hour news report. I could leave it on for 6 hours doing other stuff and abosorbing what I wanted. Can't do that in the modern "lookatmelookatmelookatmelookatme" society that makes both CNN, FOX, and a Trump presidency possible.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @08:16PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @08:16PM (#893833)

          When was the last time? Post 2013 the propaganda has been turned up.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @09:41PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @09:41PM (#893862)

            What happened around 2013 to make this propaganda spin up? Not just in the US, but also in Western Europe.

            • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @10:49PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @10:49PM (#893887)

              You'll have to watch the real news on youtube to find out (NDAA 2013 legalized targeting the American public with propaganda) .

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @06:34PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @06:34PM (#893793)

        And I should have quoted constant-run "news", as you're right that unending punditry isn't news. In fact, anytime punditry or "commentary" is being offered it is no longer news but opinion.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by ikanreed on Friday September 13 2019, @06:39PM

          by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 13 2019, @06:39PM (#893799) Journal

          Right, and there at least used to be a kind of half assed dividing line between pundits and news.

          But nowadays they'll bring on oliver fucking north to provide "military expertise" in the middle of a news segment. The whole thing is a useless train wreck, and there's a reason why people who watch cable news somehow know less about current events than people who consume no news at all.

          Though to bring it back to my original point, if I had to wager, people whose main news source is youtube are probably even worse off.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @05:04PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @05:04PM (#893740)

    you're just a partisan censor lying as to your reasons, as usual. same as mozilla. they are only worried about people being "misguided" b/c they are in bed with the gatekeepers.

    • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Friday September 13 2019, @06:44PM (3 children)

      by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 13 2019, @06:44PM (#893803) Journal

      I mean my reasons are that youtube fucking sucks and anyone who thinks its good needs a good asskicking.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @06:50PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @06:50PM (#893806)

        You're just another wet blanket. Keep one around for a while, and it starts to stink.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by ikanreed on Friday September 13 2019, @06:54PM (1 child)

          by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 13 2019, @06:54PM (#893809) Journal

          Your honor, I think the defense has made all the case the prosecution requires for this one.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @09:21PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @09:21PM (#893857)

            Agreed. ikanreed is sentenced to PMITA prison.