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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday September 14 2019, @08:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the waving-at-gravity dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

The field of astronomy has been revolutionized, thanks to the first-ever detection of gravitational waves (GWs). Since the initial detection was made in February of 2016 by scientists at the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-wave Observatory (LIGO), multiple gravitational events have been detected. These have provided insight into a phenomenon that was predicted over a century ago by Albert Einstein.

As it turns out, the infrastructure that is used to detect GWs could also crack another astronomical mystery: dark matter. According to a new study by a team of Japanese researchers, laser interferometers could be used to look for weakly interacting massive particles (WIMPs), a major candidate particle in the hunt for dark matter.

To recap, WIMPS are a theoretical elementary particle that interacts with normal matter (baryonic) only through the "weak" force gravity. As with other elementary particles that are part of the Standard Model (of which WIMPS are not), they would have been created during the early universe when the cosmos was extremely hot.

WIMPs are essentially the microscopic candidate particle, which puts them at the opposite end of the spectrum from the other major candidate—the macroscopic massive compact halo objects (MACHOs). So far, multiple experiments have been conducted to find these particles, ranging from particle collisions and indirect detections to more direct methods, but the results have been largely inconclusive.

As Dr. Satoshi Tsuchida, a professor of physics at Osaka City University and the lead author of the study, told Universe Today via email:

"[Most] MACHOs are believed to consist of baryonic matter, but baryons account for only 5 percent of the universe. Thus, we cannot explain the structure of the present universe if all of dark matter consists of MACHOs. On the other hand, WIMPs are non-baryonic matter, and we have no reason to exclude [them] from dark matter… Therefore, WIMPs can be promising dark matter candidates."


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by FatPhil on Saturday September 14 2019, @11:08AM (5 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Saturday September 14 2019, @11:08AM (#894027) Homepage
    The ones that were postulated in the 70s, and which were testable pre-LHC, and failed to exist?
    Or the ones that were postulated later, which were testable early-LHC, and failed to exist?
    Or the ones that were postulated later, which were testable 8-14 TeV-LHC, and failed to exist?
    Are you saying they've come up with even more that can be tested for and be shown not to exist - after all, they do have a reputation to uphold.

    I remember seeing a vid of a lecture by Nima A-H, about an upcoming experiment (early-LHC era, I think) which he was so supremely confident (Nima, confident - say it ain't so!) would demonstrate the existence of some new particle that he said if it didn't he'd eat his hat. It didn't. He didn't. Why should I show him any respect after that? He seemed to think that the beauty of the maths obligated physics to follow it, which is complete nonsense/nonscience.

    I'm not dissing this experiment, or any others, just the attitudes of some of the people who are involved with them. I'll be as happy as any of them if they can pull off a 5-sigma result, but the rider "it's about bloody time" might be attached to my praise.
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  • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday September 14 2019, @04:11PM (3 children)

    by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 14 2019, @04:11PM (#894098) Journal

    Well, the "It's about bloody time" is really unjustified, even though you dislike their attitude. When you don't know what the answer is, you need to look at everything plausible. When looking for my glasses I often even look again at places I've already looked...sometimes it works.

    OTOH, given the current uncertainty about the Hubble constant, one might wonder just how certain it's reasonable to be about "dark energy" and "dark matter". *Something* is clearly unexplained, but it's shape might not be what it's expected to be.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by FatPhil on Sunday September 15 2019, @06:41PM (2 children)

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Sunday September 15 2019, @06:41PM (#894407) Homepage
      Disagree.

      Make claim 1
      Say We're sure experiment 1 will justify claim 1
      Perform experiment 1
      Experiment 1 doesn't support claim 1
      Make claim 2
      Say We're sure experiment 2 will justify claim 2
      Perform experiment 2
      Experiment 3 doesn't support claim 2
      Make claim 3
      Say We're sure experiment 3 will justify claim 3
      Perform experiment 3
      Experiment 3 doesn't support claim 3
      Make claim 4
      Say We're sure experiment 4 will justify claim 4
      Perform experiment 4
      Experiment 4 doesn't support claim 4
      Make claim 5
      Say We're sure experiment 5 will justify claim 5
      Perform experiment 5
      Experiment 5 does support claim 5!
      Congratulations, but it's about bloody time.

      Perfectly justified. They shouldn't have gone into things with such arrogance. 1/5 is not a good hit rate for grand theories that seemingly must be true. You really sound like you've never seen a Nima A-H lecture.
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      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Sunday September 15 2019, @08:40PM (1 child)

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 15 2019, @08:40PM (#894425) Journal

        Well, you've got me on that. I *have* never attended one of his lectures...or read any of his papers.

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        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday September 16 2019, @05:41AM

          by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Monday September 16 2019, @05:41AM (#894542) Homepage
          Plenty of them are online. He's a good speaker, charismatic, clearly very intelligent, and utterly absorbed by his subject matter, they're a good watch. However, make sure you read any related /Not Even Wrong/ blogs about his "progress" in the field too.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 15 2019, @04:51AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 15 2019, @04:51AM (#894254)

    His prediction was that the particle collider in question would find the Higgs Boson. Turns out the LHC did find the Higgs Boson, once it was able to do sufficiently powerful proton beams with a good enough inverse femtobarn.