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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday September 17 2019, @02:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the will-not-end-well dept.

Update: DannyB adds: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/edward-snowden-nsa-cbs-this-morning-interview-today-2019-09-16/

When pressed on whether he considers what he did unlawful, Snowden refused to take a position but said "it's not hard to make the argument that I broke the law." He went on to say that the government continues to allege that his disclosures caused harm but, according to Snowden, has yet to show evidence of that harm.

"They never show evidence for it even though we're now more than 6 years on, it would be the easiest thing in the world to show. We've never heard that story," he said. "If they had some classified evidence that a hair on a single person's head was harmed, you know as well as I do, it would be on the front page of The New York Times by the end of the day."

Snowden also took issue with the common refrain that leaking classified documents violated the oath of secrecy he took upon entering the CIA. He said an oath of secrecy does not exist.

"One of the common misconceptions in one of the earlier attacks, that we heard in 2015, that we don't hear of so much anymore is that I violated this oath of secrecy. That does not exist. There is a secrecy agreement, but there is also an oath of service. An oath of service is to support and defend, not an agency, not even the president, it is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies – direct quote – foreign and domestic. And this begs the question, what happens when our obligations come into conflict."


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday September 17 2019, @05:44PM (2 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 17 2019, @05:44PM (#895290) Journal

    Less Evil and Less Dangerous are two different things.

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  • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday September 18 2019, @12:03AM (1 child)

    by Sulla (5173) on Wednesday September 18 2019, @12:03AM (#895422) Journal

    Can you provide a list of the wars/hot conflicts that Trump has started? Because there have been many incidents that would have lead to war/police actions/hot conflict under prior administrations.

    Venezuela protest squashing
    Iran tanker bombing
    Iran shooting down the drone
    Iran funding a group that blew up some oil in Saudi Arabia

    You say dangerous but at Trump rallies his supporters cheer for peace in the Korean peninsula, no new foreign entanglements, pulling out of Afghanistan and Syria, and de-taunt with Iran and Russia.

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    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday September 18 2019, @01:45PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 18 2019, @01:45PM (#895634) Journal

      Can you provide a list of the wars/hot conflicts that Trump has started?

      That misses my real concern. It's not about what he hasn't done. It's what he could do.

      From my perspective, I see it as putting nuclear weapons into the hands of an insane crazy person who is incredibly vindictive and petty, and changes his positions on things depending on which way the wind blows that day.

      Now I might be right or I might be wrong. But I would rather have a more stable person as president. I didn't vote for GWB, and I disagree with many of his policies. But I have a level of respect for GWB (none for Trump) and would gladly have GWB back in Trump's place in a heartbeat. So it's not simply an R versus D thing.

      It's one of: I think Trump is dangerous.

      Right or wrong, it is an opinion.

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