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In official statements, the US Navy has for the first time officially stated that the three UFO videos made public by former Blink-182 singer Tom DeLonge's UFO research organization are footage of real "unknown" objects violating American airspace.
Navy spokesperson Joseph Gradisher told Motherboard that "the Navy considers the phenomena contained/depicted in those 3 videos as unidentified." Previously, the Navy never addressed the content of the videos. The terminology here is important: The UFO community is increasingly using the terminology "unidentified aerial phenomena" to discuss unknown objects in the sky.
John Greenwald, author and curator of The Black Vault, the largest civilian archive of declassified government documents, originally reported the news. Greenwald requested information in August from the Navy regarding the content of the three popular videos purporting to show anomalous aerial objects.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59w3zq/tom-delonge-nytimes-ufo-aliens-comparison
(Score: 3, Interesting) by JNCF on Thursday September 19 2019, @05:19PM (11 children)
Okay, so Tom DeLonge is crazy, but there do seem to be UFOs. So that's weird. If you're doubting that Tom DeLonge is crazy, I suggest listening to this JRE interview with him. [youtube.com] He makes some absurd claims about why he was contacted by a government insider. It's literally cuz he was in Blink-182 at the time. The details about the aliens seem sketchy, too; his narrative has multiple species visiting earth, some of which can pass as humans (specifically Caucasian humans) undetected in their natural forms. There's also this JRE interview with the drummer of Blink-182, [youtube.com] Travis Barker, where Barker claims that DeLonge used to stop the tour bus to go bigfoot hunting. I feel like there's a lot of kooky beliefs and even kookier claims going on with DeLonge. I think he's fabricating some stories to support an overall narrative that he actually believes in. I think Gary McKinnon falls into that same boat. I do think the US government has been covering up UFOs for ~70 years. I don't think they're alien in origin, but I could be wrong. I would be a bit more open to an alien narrative if they weren't supposed to look so much like us, upright motherfuckers with two eyes and all. Seems a bit fishy. Speaking of fish, I could accept the aquatic UFO narrative easier than the spacefaring one, with they greys being beings that split from humanity during our aquatic ape period (no, I don't actually buy into the aquatic ape hypothesis, but I do give it a > 10% chance of being at least partially on point). I feel like Any Jacobsen's explanation of Roswell, given at the beginning of yet another JRE interview, [youtube.com] is perhaps the most compelling explanation for Roswell at the moment. It's based on one man's testimony, but the essential allegation is that Stalin had genetically deformed children surgically altered to look like aliens, and then launched them into the American heartland (near a nuclear launch site) in a saucer shaped craft. The US gub'ment had to pick up the pieces, and rather than admit that the Soviets could get that far into American airspace undetected they covered the thing up. But, they didn't just cover it up. Jacobsen claims the Americans then surgically altered their own genetically deformed children in Area 51 and launched them back at the Soviets. Information warfare via surgically altered children, what a scary thought. Honestly, this isn't out of line with what I think crazy governments are willing to do, so I'm pretty open to the notion (though not totally sold on it). Regardless of if that was going on, I do think there are saucer shaped crafts that we aren't owning up to. I suspect that they were developed by some part of the government that the Navy isn't really aware of, and the recent disclosures through the Navy have been the result of one hand not knowing what the other is up to. If there is a major alien disclosure event in the near future, and it's literally upright greys, and the government isn't giving out lots of samples of tissue for scientific examination, I'm gonna assume it's a false flag planned since the '40s with the intention of uniting us in a one-world government to fight an external alien menace
. That seems more likely to me than upright greys.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Freeman on Thursday September 19 2019, @05:24PM (7 children)
Trump, makes a lot more sense now. He's got much more in common with Microsoft's Nazi spewing AI than we knew.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Thursday September 19 2019, @06:23PM (6 children)
I was unaware Microsoft had an AI. Let alone one capable of spewing Nazis.
(Remember, Godwin only occurs when someone calls their debate opponent a Nazi, or compares them with one. Other casual use of the word gets zero Godwin points.)
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(Score: 4, Informative) by JNCF on Thursday September 19 2019, @06:28PM (5 children)
Microsoft made an AI, 4chan made her a Nazi: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/03/24/the-internet-turned-tay-microsofts-fun-millennial-ai-bot-into-a-genocidal-maniac/ [washingtonpost.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 19 2019, @06:48PM (2 children)
And we'll do it again.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by JNCF on Thursday September 19 2019, @06:51PM (1 child)
None of you are as fascist as all of you are.
(Score: 2) by istartedi on Thursday September 19 2019, @08:50PM
Most of us are potential fascists. [wikipedia.org]
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Freeman on Thursday September 19 2019, @07:02PM (1 child)
I still find it extremely funny in a very dark and twisted sort of way. Be careful what you teach your AI, you just might make Skynet a reality. In that event, we'd deserve to be slow roasted as we'd have done it to ourselves. Can't be bothered to see just how bad of an idea it would be to leave the killing to the AI Military? Write in humanity for the Darwin Award.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Saturday September 21 2019, @12:37AM
Before we get a real General AI, we need to find some way to ensure that it can never see any pr0n.
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(Score: 2) by legont on Thursday September 19 2019, @06:54PM (2 children)
I wonder if he is more or less crazy than Philip K. Dick. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis_(book) [wikipedia.org]
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(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday September 19 2019, @07:06PM
If you have to ask, it's too crazy. Kind of like buying anything, if you have to ask it's too expensive.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Thursday September 19 2019, @07:47PM
Here's a hint: Phillip K. Dick published his ideas as fiction. He *may* have thought they were real, but he was sane enough to handle them appropriately. Besides, many of his ideas can't really be falsified. That I think them unlikely doesn't mean they're wrong. OTOH, I'm not awaiting Silent Tristero's Empire.
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