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posted by janrinok on Friday September 20 2019, @12:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the who-is-Bill-anyway? dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

[In Australia,] State's upper house drags feet in passing law legalising abortion despite an overwhelming 75-percent support by voters.

The Reproductive Health Care Act 2019, which seeks to bring the state in line with the rest of Australia, would allow abortion up to 22 weeks. It was passed by the state lower house in August, with 59 votes in favour and 31 against.  The bill's backers say the change will protect women and reduce some of the stigma associated with the procedure, but the legislation has attracted intense debate and national attention.

Barnaby Joyce, a former deputy prime minister, claimed the bill ignored the rights of unborn children and, at an anti-abortion rights rally over the weekend, former prime minister Tony Abbott alleged the move to decriminalise would enable "infanticide on demand".

Terminations have existed in a legal grey area - allowed for health or economic reasons, but still carrying a risk of prosecution. "We need to take abortion out of the Crimes Act and give women autonomy over their decisions," Family Planning NSW Medical Director Dr Deborah Bateson told Al Jazeera.

A survey released this month by Pro-Choice NSW showed that more than 77 percent of the state's residents support decriminalisation.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 20 2019, @12:38AM (14 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 20 2019, @12:38AM (#896313) Journal

    As AC has already stated - bullshit. Men do not get any free services from the government. If men DID get free services from the government, women long ago would have demanded, and received, similar services. If you want to dig into inequalities mandated by government, maybe you should look at the draft. Every male in this country has to register for the draft. No women are registering. If women start flocking to the federal buildings in this nation to register for the draft, it might attract some attention. But, most women are too smart to want to trudge through the mud to shoot up whatever some politician wants shot up.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @06:11AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @06:11AM (#896408)

    If you want to dig into inequalities mandated by government, maybe you should look at the draft.

    Solution: Recognize the draft as what it is - a form of slavery - and strip the government of its power to even call for a draft under any circumstances. There, an inequality solved the right way.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @04:28PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @04:28PM (#896541)

      We tried that the first time and the government fell apart. The current United States of America is our second attempt at a government. Please learn your history before pushing for things that have been shown not to work.

  • (Score: 4, Touché) by VLM on Friday September 20 2019, @11:31AM (1 child)

    by VLM (445) on Friday September 20 2019, @11:31AM (#896460)

    Men do not get any free services from the government.

    Sure they do, child support enforcement will be all over them if the girl decides NOT to get an abortion.

    Female attention whores need to get all dressed up and show off the goods, male attention whores just need to get some girl pregnant and they'll get more attention from Big Brother than they can even imagine...

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday September 20 2019, @02:19PM

      by Freeman (732) on Friday September 20 2019, @02:19PM (#896496) Journal

      Quite sure he meant free services that are beneficial to the person they are effecting. As opposed to say, a bank robber's free services by the FBI to track them down.

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  • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Friday September 20 2019, @06:04PM (5 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday September 20 2019, @06:04PM (#896590) Journal
    Just because vasectomies aren't free in the USA doesn't mean they aren't free in more civilized countries with universal health care. Go beat up your Congress critters and senators until they respect your basic human rights to health care - or move.

    Free vasectomies, free treatment for prostate diseases, free treatments for erectile dysfunction - much of the world consider this to be a basic right for men.

    Or you can continue to vote for money for obsolete F35 jets that can't take out a drone costing 1/1000 the price. Ask Saudi Arabia how naked they feel with all that latest tech. As always, you keep spending money to fight the previous war, even as the nature of warfare changes every generation.

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:07PM (4 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:07PM (#896801) Journal

      Uhhhhhmmmmmmm - waitaminnit. I should petition my representatives to cut my nuts, and to do it for free? You can be whatever, Barbie, but fuck if I'm going to ask my government to cut on men's manhood.

      • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Friday September 27 2019, @04:47PM (3 children)

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday September 27 2019, @04:47PM (#899633) Journal
        There are plenty of military servicemen who are quite happy that the government is paying surgeons to "cut on" (your term, not mine) their penises to repair them after injuries mangle them. And let's not forget the penis transplants. Are you saying Stefan's should be permanently out of service because they were wounded by an IED?
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        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 27 2019, @11:21PM (2 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 27 2019, @11:21PM (#899729) Journal

          Nice change of subject. A vasectomy has almost zero relationship to repairing combat damage. Or, non-combat damage for that matter.

          • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday September 28 2019, @12:28AM (1 child)

            by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday September 28 2019, @12:28AM (#899744) Journal
            You're the one who said that you were not in favour of the government paying for "cutting on manhood." That's certainly not a vasectomy reference, since (in case you didn't know) vasectomies don't involve any cutting of penis or testicles. But what would you have against publicly funded vasectomies anyway? It's a lot cheaper than litigation over who pays for an unwanted pregnancy or an abortion.

            It's also one way to help deaf with the climate crisis and too many people competing for ever fewer resources such as clean air and water.

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            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 28 2019, @03:20PM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 28 2019, @03:20PM (#899938) Journal

              You're being - what? Intentionally obtuse? Whether it's a snip-snip-snip, or a knife stroke, or whatever, a vasectomy involves a "cut".

              The small tubes in your scrotum that carry sperm are cut or blocked off, so sperm can’t leave your body and cause pregnancy.

              If it's done with a meat cleaver, or an IUD, or a poleaxe, there's a "cut".

              What happens during a no-scalpel vasectomy?
              The doctor makes one tiny puncture (hole) to reach both vas deferens tubes — the skin of your scrotum isn’t cut with a scalpel. Your tubes are then tied off, cauterized, or blocked. The small puncture heals quickly. You won’t need stitches, and there’s no scarring.

              No-scalpel methods — also called no-cut or no-incision — reduce bleeding and lower the risk of infection, bruising, and other complications.

              So, even your "no cut" vasectomy involves a cut.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @04:15AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @04:15AM (#896719)

    At least they can register now. Up until February of this year (2019) it was literally illegal for them to sign up for the Selective Service. The funny thing about that is that most of the people I know personally who are the most ardent "4th wave" feminists were actively bitching about the women who brought the lawsuit for selling out womankind instead of supporting their fight for literal equal treatment under the law.

    • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Friday September 27 2019, @05:02PM (2 children)

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday September 27 2019, @05:02PM (#899640) Journal
      4th wave feminism is bullshit, same as first wave feminism is so obsolete and covered in white privilege historically that it's borderline cover for racists.

      Those of us who want equal rights want them for everyone, not just the privileged. It's going to take a long time for everyone to accept male nurses, for example. Or getting rid of the consept of discrimination in "safe spaces", or just the idea of safe spaces - every space should be safe for everyone, and anything less than that means we have more work to do. "Safe spaces " are an excuse to ignore the underlying problems while claiming to be making progress, kind of like turning up the AC to fix global heating.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 27 2019, @06:35PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 27 2019, @06:35PM (#899671)

        5th vaporwave feminist tribalism is going to be great. That's where women form heavily armed manless communes and create synthetic embryos to reproduce. Females only, although they could make male children to molest and exile them at puberty.

        • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday September 28 2019, @12:45AM

          by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday September 28 2019, @12:45AM (#899752) Journal
          For a better take, try "Houston, Houston, Do You Read ..." Way ahead of its time.

          On a somewhat related note, since men still mostly want younger women, and women live longer than men on average, it would be logical for women to be more open to same-sex relationships as the default long-term relationship, rather than being doomed to spending a large chunk of the end of their lives playing nursemaid and changing diapers to cranky old men.

          ... and then being stuck being alone ...

          ... when they could have invested that time in building a relationship that wasn't doomed to end prematurely because of men's frailty as they age, as well as them becoming dangerous thanks to Alzheimer's and other dementia.

          There have been a couple of documentaries about men in old age homes beating women residents to a pulp and they can't be charged because they are legally incompetent. I know one woman who had to place her husband because she was afraid after multiple police interventions with her husband, who had attacked several people, but had Alzheimer's.

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