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posted by Fnord666 on Friday September 20 2019, @12:31PM   Printer-friendly
from the RIP dept.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/19/760317486/the-mysterious-death-of-the-hacker-who-turned-in-chelsea-manning

Morrow witnessed the exact moment when the hacker community turned on Lamo. It happened, in a stark way, at a Hackers On Planet Earth conference in New York. Hacker meetups were usually a great opportunity to party, meet new people and start new projects, but from the outset it was clear that post-Manning, this HOPE meeting would be different.

"The first day at the conference there were a lot of people yelling out 'snitch' and at least one occasion that I recall somebody spitting in his direction," Morrow recalls. "It was a rather divisive time back then. Something like this had never happened to the community. Up until that point, Adrian had been an inspiration, but that all turned. In their minds, or in the culture, the worst thing you could be was a snitch and I think that probably confused a lot of people. There was a bit of a mob mentality, people were just so taken aback that this happened."

[...] After the conference, there was no ambiguity about how the hacker community felt about Lamo.

"People hated him," said another of his friends, Andrew Blake. "He couldn't log on to any sort of interest platform under his actual name without instantly getting some sort of hate directed toward him. Even when Adrian would do something with the absolute best of intentions, as soon as anyone realized that it was Adrian Lamo who did it, they didn't want anything to do with it."


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  • (Score: -1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @12:47PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @12:47PM (#896473)

    Im not going to bother with NPR. They never know wtf they are talking about, and do it in the most elitist and smug way. But how did he die?

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @01:32PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @01:32PM (#896482)

    I'm not going to bother posting the cause of death here, for someone who doesn't care to RTFA but wants to comment so everyone can see how elitist and smug he is.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @01:36PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @01:36PM (#896485)

      Im a ve, not a he...

  • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @01:34PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @01:34PM (#896484)

    How did he die?

    A friendly government agent signed a document and one Adrian Lamo died while a john Smith appeared with plastic surgery scars, clean papers and a steady government job.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @08:21PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @08:21PM (#896636)

      Hey, I'd like to have a comfy government job with healthcare benefits?

      Where do I sign the fuck up?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @08:45PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @08:45PM (#896640)

        Marshal witness protection.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by ledow on Friday September 20 2019, @01:59PM (1 child)

    by ledow (5567) on Friday September 20 2019, @01:59PM (#896490) Homepage

    Well, it doesn't really matter... I only bothered to skim the article but basically it's not "mysterious" at all. The guy died, he was full of all kinds of prescription and non-prescription drugs, and the coroner couldn't find a *specific* cause, but that doesn't mean much.

    Including one particular combination that has proven fatal elsewhere.

    "That didn't surprise Debbie Scroggin. "He would overmedicate because his anxiety was so high," she said. "There were times when he would ... come up to have dinner and he'd fall asleep in his food. Literally face down in his food.""

    It's click-bait, but if you read the text-only version by refusing to agree to their cookie policy, you would see that it's not only a "mystery" in so far as people don't know exactly what killed him. That he died while having all that stuff in his body isn't exactly "mysterious" though as he was a long time abuser of all kinds of "legal", over-the-counter and prescription drugs such that his doctor and friends knew about it.

    It's like saying Elvis died "mysteriously". All it means is that you don't know the exact thing that killed him, it doesn't mean the coroner was somehow baffled or surprised that the guy had died.

    • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday September 20 2019, @07:17PM

      by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Friday September 20 2019, @07:17PM (#896618) Journal

      +6, but also add in that we apparently know that the benzos were prescribed and there are other hints in the story that has depressive elements, plus the Kratom factor throwing in a whole dimension of potential interactions. No conspiracy theory needed.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @02:32PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @02:32PM (#896500)

    Agreed, suggest that you don't read tfa -- it's too surreal for you to grok.

    Hint--there is a photo of Lamo driving a 4-wheeler (ATV) in the middle of Kansas, yes, it's that surreal.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 20 2019, @03:02PM (7 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 20 2019, @03:02PM (#896515) Journal

      There is no "middle of Kansas". Like the cake, the "middle of Kansas" is a lie.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @03:48PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @03:48PM (#896532)

        Sorry, I've only driven across Kansas a few times (once on Rt 36--beautiful rolling 2-lane), seemed like there was a middle to that long drive...

        Anyway, update my comment to "middle of nowhere in Kansas"(grin).

        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday September 20 2019, @04:33PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 20 2019, @04:33PM (#896543) Journal

          On I-70, once you are West of Salina, there is A LOT of nowhere to be in the middle of.

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      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @04:05PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @04:05PM (#896538)

        The entirety of Kansas is the middle of Kansas.

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @05:49PM (3 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday September 20 2019, @05:49PM (#896582) Journal

        It most certainly is not! And it has the advantage of being equally convenient to both coasts!

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        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 21 2019, @12:10AM (2 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 21 2019, @12:10AM (#896673) Journal

          Well, Kanas isn't far from the Gulf coast, but the Great Lakes are a bit more distant.

          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 21 2019, @01:15AM (1 child)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday September 21 2019, @01:15AM (#896684) Journal

            There is only L.A. and Miami.

            The Gulf coast is just a hazardous waste site.

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            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:09PM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:09PM (#896802) Journal

              California or Florida? I'll pass. I prefer to live in the United States.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by tangomargarine on Friday September 20 2019, @03:07PM

    by tangomargarine (667) on Friday September 20 2019, @03:07PM (#896521)

    Fucking long-ass article, near the bottom:

    On March 14, 2018, the manager of Shadybrook Senior Apartments found Lamo's body. He was lying on a pile of clothes in the bedroom and when she saw the blood pooling under his fingernails, she pulled a medical alert cord in the apartment. The first responders found an apartment in complete disarray — huge piles of trash, dirty dishes, pills and powders everywhere. The medical examiner took photographs and then loaded Lamo's body into a van.

    Debbie Scroggin called Lamo's father and then went out to the apartment to tidy it up a bit before he arrived. "One of the things I did that I probably shouldn't have done is I threw away all his empty prescription bottles," she said.

    ...

    Dr. Timothy Rohrig is Sedgwick County's chief medical examiner, and when he began to read through the chemicals found in Lamo's bloodstream, he saw it was a long list of prescription and over-the-counter drugs: clonazepam, etizolam, flubromazepam, Benadryl, chlorpheniramine, citalopram, gabapentin, some decongestants and anti-diarrheals. It wasn't enough to kill Lamo, Rohrig said, but he was likely in a fairly sedated state.

    ...

    And while Madras couldn't say exactly what killed Lamo, she did allow that people who mixed "natural" substances like kratom with prescription drugs were essentially conducting their own human experiments. "They have no clue what they're putting into their body and what the consequences could be."

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Friday September 20 2019, @05:45PM (1 child)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Friday September 20 2019, @05:45PM (#896578) Journal

    NPR is clearly trying to rouse sympathy for that snitch and rehabilitate him in the public eye.